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    • Nightowlundefined
      Nightowl @infiniteloop
      last edited by

      @infiniteloop said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

      No, it’s attentive reading.

      I beg to differ. What you have done for me is brilliant, even if it's simple to you!

      Anyway, on with the experiment...

      Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
      I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

      RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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      • Nightowlundefined
        Nightowl @infiniteloop
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        @infiniteloop
        There seems to be an error in the resurrect-prologue.g file, because when I use M916 in the MDI, I get the following:

        Error: in file macro line 3 column 26: meta command: unknown variable 'abort_process'
        

        I've indented the line below, as instructed, so perhaps there's a typo. I'll investigate.

        I'm also getting:

        Warning: Macro file 0:/sys/workzero.g not found
        

        ...but I'm not sure what caused that!

        Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
        I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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        • infiniteloopundefined
          infiniteloop @Nightowl
          last edited by

          @Nightowl999 Who the hell is "MDI"?

          The complaint about a missing abort_process indicates that RestoreSpindleSpeed.g is either not run before - it should be called from line 3 of resurrect-prologue.g, please compare your prologue with the sample I posted yesterday…

          … or, if RestoreSpindleSpeed.g has been called before, that macro does not reflect my recent modification of SaveSpindleSpeed.g: my latest version (refer to the yesterday post) generates a RestoreSpindleSpeed.g that initialises the global variable abort_process.

          The warning "Macro file 0:/sys/workzero.g not found" is unrelated - I have no knowledge of a macro carrying that name, so I can't help you with that.

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          • Nightowlundefined
            Nightowl @infiniteloop
            last edited by Nightowl

            @infiniteloop

            Yes, it's called from that file:

            ; resurrect-prologue.g
            M98 P"RestoreSpindleSpeed.g"
            if global.abort_process == true
            	abort
            ; abort terminates this and all other macros in the cal chain, so 'rien ne va plus'
            ; Continuation has been approved, so here we go:"
            M98 P"homeall.g"	; homes all axes before restarting the job
            {1}
            

            And all I did with the updated RestoreSpindleSpeed.g was copy and paste...

            A thought: Should the variable be declared in config.g, or is it a system variable?

            PS I tried without the curly brackets, but it made no difference, so I put them back 🙂

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            • infiniteloopundefined
              infiniteloop
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              @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

              Yes, it's called from that file

              Fine. Then please replace the contents of SaveSpindleSpeed.g with this here, as I've found an (unrelated) bug.

              ; SaveSpindleSpeed.g
              ; Macro to store the actual spindle speed (RPM) at the time this is called
              ; To restore the saved datum, call the macro "RestoreSpindleSpeed.g".
              ; Before it activates the spindle, RestoreSpindleSpeed.g asks whether to continue with the print or not.
              ; If not, the process can be stopped with these two lines in resurrect-prologue.g:
              ;
              ;	if {global.abort_process == true}
              ;		abort									;;; please not that this line must be indented
              ;
              ; Requires RRF 3.4 and a CNC configuration with valid spindles[0] entry in the object model
              
              
              var fName = "RestoreSpindleSpeed.g"
              
              echo >{var.fName} "; "^var.fName
              echo >>{var.fName} "; Spindle speed saved from running """^{job.file.fileName}^""" CNC file"
              echo >>{var.fName} ""
              echo >>{var.fName} "; set up the global variable abort_process so we can abort further execution of resurrect.g:"
              echo >>{var.fName} "if {!exists(global.abort_process)}"
              echo >>{var.fName} "    global abort_process = true"
              echo >>{var.fName} "else"
              echo >>{var.fName} "    set global.abort_process = true"
              echo >>{var.fName} ""
              echo >>{var.fName} "; now comes the dialog:"
              echo >>{var.fName} "M291 S3 R""Resurrect:"" P""Continue with <"^{job.file.fileName}^">?"""
              echo >>{var.fName} ""
              echo >>{var.fName} "; we will only arrive here if the dialog was closed with OK:"
              echo >>{var.fName} "set global.abort_process = false"
              echo >>{var.fName} "M3 S"^{spindles[0].active}
              echo >>{var.fName} ""
              echo >>{var.fName} ";EOF"
              

              Then, please simulate a power outage - this step is needed to generate the proper RestoreSpindleSpeed.g macro.

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              • Nightowlundefined
                Nightowl @infiniteloop
                last edited by Nightowl

                @infiniteloop No, sorry. I get exactly the same error 😞

                Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                • infiniteloopundefined
                  infiniteloop @Nightowl
                  last edited by

                  @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                  No, sorry. I get exactly the same error

                  OK, let's see … Could you please compare your RestoreSpindleSpeed.g with this here:

                  ; RestoreSpindleSpeed.g
                  ; Spindle speed saved from running "null" CNC file
                  
                  ; set up the global variable abort_process so we can abort further execution of resurrect.g:
                  if {!exists(global.abort_process)}
                      global abort_process = true
                  else
                      set global.abort_process = true
                  
                  ; now comes the dialog:
                  M291 S3 R"Resurrect:" P"Continue with <null>?"
                  
                  ; we will only arrive here if the dialog was closed with OK:
                  set global.abort_process = false
                  M3 S0
                  
                  ;EOF
                  

                  I generated this without a job running, that's why the CNC file name is "null", and without a spindle, M3 will always be told a speed of 0 RPM.

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                  • Nightowlundefined
                    Nightowl @infiniteloop
                    last edited by

                    @infiniteloop Erm, my file looks like this...

                    ; RestoreSpindleSpeed.g
                    ; Spindle speed saved from running "0:/gcodes/Calibration Toolpath.gcode" CNC file
                    
                    ; set up the global variable abort_process so we can abort further execution of resurrect.g:
                    if {!exists(global.abort_process)}
                    

                    Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                    I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                    RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                    • infiniteloopundefined
                      infiniteloop @Nightowl
                      last edited by infiniteloop

                      @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                      I just noted a difference between your resurrect-prologue.g and the template I sent you - here's my version:

                      if {global.abort_process == true}
                      

                      and here's your corresponding line:

                      if global.abort_process == true
                      

                      You see the difference? 😌

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                      • Nightowlundefined
                        Nightowl @infiniteloop
                        last edited by Nightowl

                        @infiniteloop I do, yes. I tried it at that, but changed it back to using the squiggly brackets, as it made no difference.

                        They're currently in place, as per your version.

                        ; resurrect-prologue.g
                        M98 P"RestoreSpindleSpeed.g"
                        if {global.abort_process == true}
                        	abort
                        ; abort terminates this and all other macros in the call chain, so 'rien ne va plus'
                        ; Continuation has been approved, so here we go:"
                        M98 P"homeall.g"	; homes all axes before restarting the job
                        {1}
                        

                        I don't know why there are two {1} showing at the end of the file, though. There's only 1 in the actual file!

                        Where is the global.abort_process declared, or is it a ssytem variable?

                        Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                        I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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                        • infiniteloopundefined
                          infiniteloop @Nightowl
                          last edited by infiniteloop

                          @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                          Erm, my file looks like this...

                          That's a radically abbreviated version… 🤔

                          Either, your SaveSpindleSpeed.g has been truncated so that it just generates 4 lines of output, or we see the result of too little power left after pulling the plug.

                          [Edit] First, please check your copy of SaveSpindleSpeed.g carefully against the posted version. If both are equal, call SaveSpindleSpeed.g from the console:

                          • throws it an error?
                          • looks the resulting RestoreSpindleSpeed.g like the one I posted above?
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                          • infiniteloopundefined
                            infiniteloop @Nightowl
                            last edited by

                            @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                            I don't know why there are two {1} showing at the end of the file

                            I'm not quite sure, either, but I think they indicate empty lines.

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                            • Nightowlundefined
                              Nightowl @infiniteloop
                              last edited by Nightowl

                              @infiniteloop said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                              but I think they indicate empty lines.

                              Maybe you're right about the powerloss, then, or (sorry for asking again) the global.abort_process variable hasn't been declared?

                              Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                              I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                              RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                              • infiniteloopundefined
                                infiniteloop @Nightowl
                                last edited by

                                @nightowl999 I've added some hints to my post above. Please try them …

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                                • Nightowlundefined
                                  Nightowl @infiniteloop
                                  last edited by Nightowl

                                  @infiniteloop It says the file's not found, but it's deffo there in my \sys folder!

                                  Error: in file macro line 28 column 26: meta command: control character in string
                                  

                                  OK, there was a " missing on the last line...

                                  Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                  I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                  RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                  • Nightowlundefined
                                    Nightowl @infiniteloop
                                    last edited by Nightowl

                                    @infiniteloop Now the file looks like this:

                                    ; RestoreSpindleSpeed.g
                                    ; Spindle speed saved from running "null" CNC file
                                    
                                    ; set up the global variable abort_process so we can abort further execution of resurrect.g:
                                    if {!exists(global.abort_process)}
                                        global abort_process = true
                                    else
                                        set global.abort_process = true
                                    
                                    ; now comes the dialog:
                                    M291 S3 R"Resurrect:" P"Continue with <null>?"
                                    
                                    ; we will only arrive here if the dialog was closed with OK:
                                    set global.abort_process = false
                                    M3 S0
                                    
                                    ;EOF
                                    

                                    I'll have another go at the power fail test...

                                    Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                    I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                    RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                    • infiniteloopundefined
                                      infiniteloop @Nightowl
                                      last edited by

                                      @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                                      Now the file looks like this:

                                      That's perfect. Before pulling the plug again, you should call resurrect-prologue.g from the console to see if you still get an error. Note, however, that your router might execute the homing moves if the construct works as expected.

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                                      • Nightowlundefined
                                        Nightowl @infiniteloop
                                        last edited by

                                        @infiniteloop

                                        Same problem. Only half a RestoreSpindleSpeed.g file...

                                        Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                        I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                        RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                        • Nightowlundefined
                                          Nightowl @infiniteloop
                                          last edited by Nightowl

                                          @infiniteloop

                                          OK, so I called resurret-prologue.g which gave a prompt to carry on. I clicked OK and the homing sequence completed.

                                          Then i got these errors:

                                          31/05/2022, 12:19:04 	M292
                                          Error: Bad command: {1}
                                          31/05/2022, 12:19:04 	m98 P"resurrect-prologue.g"
                                          Error: Bad command: {1}
                                          

                                          EDIT: I've deleted the {1}

                                          Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                          I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                          RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                          • infiniteloopundefined
                                            infiniteloop @Nightowl
                                            last edited by

                                            @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                                            Same problem. Only half a RestoreSpindleSpeed.g file...

                                            So we've localised this problem: rapid power loss …

                                            In the meantime, please test with a RestoreSpindleSpeed.g which you generate from the command line

                                            M98 P"SaveSpindleSpeed.g"
                                            

                                            Proceed as suggested in my last post. Feel free to edit the S parameter of M3 if want your spindle to turn ☺

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