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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

      @mikeabuilder said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

      I still have a prototype HP Intel 486 machine in my basement. It was really hot stuff at the time. My processor was double clocked - from 20Mhz to 40Mhz. That was hot stuff in it's time, about 30 years ago.

      Fun times for sure. I remember upgrading an IBM desktop from 4 to 6-8 Mhz - heady stuff.

      Who dreamed where we would be today with gigahertz clock speeds, gigabytes of memory and terabytes of solid state drives.

      Frederick

      My first was a Sinclair ZX81 (8 bit processor with 1K memory and cassette tape for "non-volatile" storage) circa 1981 that I bought in kit form. My second was a Texas Instruments TI-994A that I bought a couple of years later (so circa 1983) with a 16bit 3Mhz processor and separate VDP (Video Display Processor as they were called in those days).

      By 1983 I was 30 years old and these machines were big steps up from calculators, which in turn were big steps up from slide rules and books of log tables that was all we had in my school days.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • cosmowaveundefined
        cosmowave
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        Until 2009 i've built special machines with a Z80 controller board (2MHz, 2kB RAM).
        The complete controller board and all other electronic boards was soldered by hand... 💪

        I loved it to write programs in Z80 assembler. But the begin was hard!

        Mankati FSXT+, DeltaTowerV2, E3D MS/TC

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @deckingman
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          @deckingman said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

          By 1983 I was 30 years old and these machines were big steps up from calculators, which in turn were big steps up from slide rules and books of log tables that was all we had in my school days.

          I still have mine.

          Slide Rules 3.png

          The white one is a typical one while the yellow one was for all things electronic.

          They are a bit more than 50 years old.

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by Phaedrux

            Seeing as this has turned into an after school computer club thread, I'll share with you a "retro" computing device that you might find interesting.

            https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki

            It uses a FPGA board to do hardware emulation of old computers, consoles, arcade machines, etc. The list of supported devices is long. You can even emulate a PDP-1 if you like, and all the way up to a 486 class device capable of windows 95.

            https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PDP1_MiSTer

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            • infiniteloopundefined
              infiniteloop @Phaedrux
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              @phaedrux said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

              this has turned into an after school computer club thread

              … of grumpy old men 😊

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman @infiniteloop
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                @infiniteloop said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                … of grumpy old men 😊

                .........of which, I am the oldest and many would say the grumpiest, therefore the most senior member of that auspicious club. 😁

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • mikeabuilderundefined
                  mikeabuilder
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                  @deckingman - love the slide rules. When I was in high school, my class was the last year that pocket calculators were prohibited in chemistry class. We had to use slide rules. The reason was that pocket calculators were so expensive that it was considered an unfair advantage for those that could afford one.

                  I also learned programming with punchcards.

                  Good times...

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                  • jens55undefined
                    jens55
                    last edited by jens55

                    You guys and your new-fangled toys ..... my first computer was an Abacus. Fingers and toes had to suffice before that!
                    I also did the bit with toggling individual bits with switches and then 'loading' the resulting 'word' into the computer ... .one friggin' word at a time! Punch cards was such a huge step up!
                    Ah the good old days .....

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @phaedrux said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                      Seeing as this has turned into an after school computer club thread, I'll share with you a "retro" computing device that you might find interesting.

                      https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki

                      It uses a FPGA board to do hardware emulation of old computers, consoles, arcade machines, etc. The list of supported devices is long. You can even emulate a PDP-1 if you like, and all the way up to a 486 class device capable of windows 95.

                      https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PDP1_MiSTer

                      alt text

                      I wish you could buy a full blown one ready to go.

                      I'm a big fan of nostelgia. 😁

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @deckingman
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                        @deckingman said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                        @infiniteloop said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                        … of grumpy old men 😊

                        .........of which, I am the oldest and many would say the grumpiest, therefore the most senior member of that auspicious club. 😁

                        Really? I thought I was the elder. I just turned 72.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • infiniteloopundefined
                          infiniteloop @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt, @deckingman

                          .........of which, I am the oldest and many would say the grumpiest, therefore the most senior member of that auspicious club.

                          Really? I thought I was the elder. I just turned 72.

                          No beauty contest, please 😱

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                          • deckingmanundefined
                            deckingman @fcwilt
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                            @fcwilt said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                            @deckingman said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                            @infiniteloop said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                            … of grumpy old men 😊

                            .........of which, I am the oldest and many would say the grumpiest, therefore the most senior member of that auspicious club. 😁

                            Really? I thought I was the elder. I just turned 72.

                            Frederick

                            AHH, then I bow in submission oh master. I'm merely a spring chicken at only 68 (soon to be 69).

                            Ian
                            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @deckingman
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                              @deckingman said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                              I'm merely a spring chicken at only 68 (soon to be 69).

                              I do envy you young folk.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
                                last edited by

                                @fcwilt said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                                I wish you could buy a full blown one ready to go.

                                A mister, or a PDP1?

                                For the PDP1, check ebay, for the mister, check here: https://misteraddons.com/collections/kits-1/products/mister-pre-configured-bundle-with-aluminum-case

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @phaedrux said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                                  @fcwilt said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                                  I wish you could buy a full blown one ready to go.

                                  A mister, or a PDP1?

                                  For the PDP1, check ebay, for the mister, check here: https://misteraddons.com/collections/kits-1/products/mister-pre-configured-bundle-with-aluminum-case

                                  Thanks very much.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    People also like to build them into wedge style keyboard cases for the extra authentic look.

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @phaedrux said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                                      People also like to build them into wedge style keyboard cases for the extra authentic look.

                                      5d3745f1-bf80-400e-9092-3451d059146a-image.png

                                      I don't recognize that one.

                                      I had a Atari 800, a Commodore 64, a big CompuPro chassis with a 68000 cpu card, a HeathKit H89 (two of them actually) before moving onto DOS based machines.

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • mikeabuilderundefined
                                        mikeabuilder
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                                        One of my "back in my day" sayings for the new kids used to be showing them a 3.5" dual density (2.88MB - size defined to 2 decimal places) floppy disk in a hard case and tell them this was the "premium" small portable storage 30 years ago. Then I'd tell then how many it would take to store the same amount as a modern device. Today, that's a 1TB micro SD card (that us old guys can barely handle, they're so tiny). So, roughly 350,000 old-style disks. They were about 1/8 inch thick, so a stack of 350K would be over 3600 feet tall.

                                        Oh yeah, and we had to write to those old ones with a piece of charcoal by candle-light. After walking 5 miles to work through snowdrifts.

                                        And they hadn't even invented espresso.

                                        Harumpf.

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                                        • infiniteloopundefined
                                          infiniteloop @fcwilt
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                                          @fcwilt said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                                          I do envy you young folk.

                                          Young folks? Welcome to the geriatric squad! 🤣

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @mikeabuilder
                                            last edited by

                                            @mikeabuilder said in Fine editor for working with Duet boards:

                                            Today, that's a 1TB micro SD card (that us old guys can barely handle, they're so tiny). So, roughly 350,000 old-style disks. They were about 1/8 inch thick, so a stack of 350K would be over 3600 feet tall.

                                            That reminds me of something I heard once: "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 packed with hard drives."

                                            This actually proved true recently with radio telescope data spread out across the globe gathering terabytes of data. The fastest way to process it all is to take the drives as carry on luggage to a central location for processing.

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