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    • oliofundefined
      oliof @A Former User
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      @corlissmedia Nothing straightforward you can do here unfortunately.

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        A Former User @oliof
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        @oliof putting the 5+ isn't exactly straight-forwards, but it sure is fun!

        Mark

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        • oliofundefined
          oliof @A Former User
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          @corlissmedia unless you have some experience in reverse engineering STM binaries I don't think there is much you can do at the time being in the area I am currently fumbling around in the dark.

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            A Former User @oliof
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            @oliof may someone hand you a headlamp!

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            • oliofundefined
              oliof @A Former User
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              @corlissmedia I could certainly need one.

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              • oliofundefined
                oliof @oliof
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                Alright, I did look at the source code for the Dlion firmware and it predates any UART control. So I guess you will need to measure the reference voltage on the stepper drivers to find out what the used current is.

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                  A Former User @oliof
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                  @oliof because?

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                  • oliofundefined
                    oliof @A Former User
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                    @corlissmedia because the software doesn't govern the current but the little potentiometer setting the reference voltage. As was the case with older)simpler boards where UART control was not available.

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                      A Former User @oliof
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                      @oliof I’d love to do that, but I have no idea how.

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                        @corlissmedia 9D279767-94A5-4349-9A55-0E3C98A7C615.jpeg

                        This is how far I got today.

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                        • oliofundefined
                          oliof @A Former User
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                          @corlissmedia you will need to power up the old board -- nothing needs to be connected -- and then measure the voltage between ground and the potentiometer. See this guide https://www.inov3d.net/stepper-calibration-tune-your-vref-steps-for-perfect-prints/

                          depending on the stepper drivers used on the board, there is a specific formula to compute the current that's put out. If you provide a high res photo of the front of the control board we might be able to discern that.

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                            A Former User @oliof
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                            @oliof since my recent post was locked, I’ll work on this today. Thank you for helping me.

                            Mark

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                              A Former User @oliof
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                              @oliof A31DAA67-0A4E-4F4B-86AB-4C4B4AE54A02.jpeg

                              Does this help?

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                              • oliofundefined
                                oliof
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                                Can you carefully try pulling off the heatsink off of one of the drivers? it would help to see the markings on top of the driver chip. I do expect them to be Allegro 498x chips, but it's always better to know than to guess.

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                                • droftartsundefined
                                  droftarts administrators @A Former User
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                                  @mac To measure the vref (reference voltage) measure the voltage between the potentiometer (circled) and the Ground side of the power input (square), with the power connected.
                                  Screenshot 2022-06-21 at 12.46.48.png

                                  They look like 'Stepstick' drivers. What current the 'vref' relates to will depend on the values of other components, specifically the sense resistors (which are under the heatsink). See https://www.reprap.org/wiki/StepStick

                                  Usually, ITripMAX (effectively max motor current) = VREF / ( 8 x Sense_resistor)

                                  Ian

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                                    A Former User @oliof
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                                    @oliof 1C4C329C-B393-4F28-A1A6-F95996593186.jpeg 1BC6A8E2-88C5-413A-8BD8-35822361E295.jpeg BD0C5CCF-64B4-49C8-B2BA-4D14CDBA11AF.jpeg

                                    I checked the X, Y, and Z motor connectors this morning to see if the phases were split/installed correctly. As far as I can tell, they were.

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                                    • droftartsundefined
                                      droftarts administrators @A Former User
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                                      @mac Need to see under the heatsink that's stuck to the top of the driver. BTW, the layout of the driver looks exactly like a Stepstick. The sense resistors are the two components poking out the side of the heatsink. They are labelled S1 and S2.

                                      Ian

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                                        A Former User @droftarts
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                                        @droftarts what does all this mean, guys?

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                                        • droftartsundefined
                                          droftarts administrators @A Former User
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                                          @mac pull the heatsink off the driver. It's just held on with some thermally-conductive glue. Also doesn't really help cool the chip underneath; the A4988 chips sink heat through their base, into the copper of the PCB, not through the top of the chip!

                                          Edit: Then look at what number is on the top of the sense resistors, and report back what it is (or post a picture where we can see the numbers). And measure the vref with a voltmeter.

                                          Ian

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                                            A Former User @droftarts
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                                            @droftarts okay, off it comes. Picture me to follow.

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