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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      Have you identified the phase pairs?

      https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Motors_connecting#identifying-the-stepper-motor-phases

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      • Unforgivenllundefined
        Unforgivenll @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux Yes I have.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          And do your pairs match what they show in the data sheet?

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          • Unforgivenllundefined
            Unforgivenll @Phaedrux
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            @phaedrux Yes they do.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              And how are they connected to the Duet?

              When do you get the out of phase errors?

              Does that happen on every driver?

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              • Unforgivenllundefined
                Unforgivenll @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux I get the error when I try to home it. Tried different drivers and different motors. The error comes up when I press home. After a second the motor turns in the correct direction and after about 20 seconds or so it stutters.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by Phaedrux

                  Can you share your config file?

                  And it happens to every driver and with different motors? The scope of the problem keeps creeping.

                  Can you also post your homing files if that's when the problem happens?

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                  • Unforgivenllundefined
                    Unforgivenll @Phaedrux
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                    @phaedrux It does happen on X an Y. I cannot test Z yet as it isn't homed (Still testing before everything is permanently placed.).

                    homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g config.g

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      If you want to test movement on an unhomed axis use G1 H2 Z10 for instance.

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                      • Unforgivenllundefined
                        Unforgivenll @Phaedrux
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                        @phaedrux Is that why I'm getting an error?

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Do you have motors connected to all of the drivers when you test?

                          What is the exact error you're getting?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                            I see you have sensorless homing set for X and Y. Do you have endstop switches as well? That can simplify things during initial setup.

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                              Unforgivenll @Phaedrux
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                              @phaedrux I have senseless homing set in the config but not calibrated. 8 don't have any endstop switches.

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                              • Unforgivenllundefined
                                Unforgivenll @Unforgivenll
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                                @unforgivenll G1 H2 X10 makes the motor lock up and whine.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  Ok, so sensorless homing is going to take some configuring to get working. I would suggest that you put that off until you've done some more testing and commissioning.

                                  You can also force the axis to be homed by sending G92 X0 Y0 Z0 for example which would make the firmware think that the current position is at the low end for each axis. This can be useful for testing.

                                  Basically we need to test movement without homing (or sensorless homing in this case)

                                  The same can be done by using G1 H2 commands to ignore the homed state and just move the motor.

                                  Do you get the errors when trying those means of moving the motor?

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    M906 X650 Y650 Z650 E650 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                                    Are your motor currents set correctly for the motors?

                                    Aim to set M906 to ~60% to 80% of the max rated for the motor.

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                                    • Unforgivenllundefined
                                      Unforgivenll @Phaedrux
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                                      @phaedrux The extruder seems to work perfectly (LGX). The max current on the sheet says 0.65 a. I hope the whole build doesn't go like this.

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                                      • Unforgivenllundefined
                                        Unforgivenll @Unforgivenll
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                                        @unforgivenll the extruder is on the tool board (If that's means anything.)

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @Unforgivenll
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                                          @unforgivenll said in Problems with Duet 3 Mini 5+ WiFi:

                                          The max current on the sheet says 0.65 a

                                          That's the Moons motor whose data sheet you posted earlier?

                                          If they are max 650ma and you have the current set to 650ma in M906 you're giving them 100% power. An easy way to test finding the right current is to add an M913 command after your M906. M913 is used to alter the motor current by a percentage. For example:

                                          M906 X650 Y650 Z650
                                          M913 X60 Y60 Z60
                                          

                                          Would reduce the current to 60% of the rated max, which is a good value to start with.

                                          Do you have other motors to test with or are they all the same?

                                          Have you tried the extruder motor on the main board? What max current does it take?

                                          When you change motors make sure you're also updating the config to match the settings they need. In this case the extruder motor seems to work and will take 650ma so you should be safe to try it on X and Y. Just make sure to power off before unplugging.

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                                          • Unforgivenllundefined
                                            Unforgivenll @Phaedrux
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                                            @phaedrux The extruder is mounted and wired already. I bought 4 Moons motors as I plan to have dual Z, one on EO on the mainboard (A problem I'll have in the future I'm sure.). So 390ma for the motors? That's not too low?

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