Duet3D Logo Duet3D
    • Tags
    • Documentation
    • Order
    • Register
    • Login

    Scared to rewire endstops, help me pick new ones?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved
    Duet Hardware and wiring
    4
    24
    548
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • buurmanundefined
      buurman @jay_s_uk
      last edited by

      @jay_s_uk Okay, I will go and get some mechanical ones then. Any idea why they don't just put 5v on there, that would seem to save a lot of hassle?

      jay_s_ukundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @buurman
        last edited by

        @buurman they have on the duet 3.
        don't forget the duet 2 has been around quite a while now and is a little long in the tooth

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

        buurmanundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • buurmanundefined
          buurman @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk makes sense, thanks! One more thing, you said no voltage required for mechanical, i understand that's true to operate it, but ofc a circuit still needs to be made and broken, suppose this will also be 3.3v? I imagine it is, just safeguarding, because if it is i can safely use the wiring that already exists (part of a ribbon cable) for the y endstop.

          jay_s_ukundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @buurman
            last edited by

            @buurman no, its wired between the signal pin and ground. 3.3v doesn't get used for mechanical

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

            buurmanundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • buurmanundefined
              buurman @jay_s_uk
              last edited by

              @jay_s_uk why do mechanical endstops also have 3 leads then? and the signal pin has a voltage too, right?

              A Former User? jay_s_ukundefined 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • A Former User?
                A Former User @buurman
                last edited by A Former User

                This post is deleted!
                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk @buurman
                  last edited by

                  @buurman some of them designed for 3d printers do and thats purely to power an LED to show you when its been activated or not. Most of those though are Normally Open rather than Normally Closed.
                  Just buy some microswitches with a lever and print some mounts for them. Normally Closed is a much better setup all day long

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

                  buurmanundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • buurmanundefined
                    buurman @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by

                    @jay_s_uk Why would normally closed be better? Fewer things that could unwantedly trip the sensor? Right now i just want to get the setup working, i can get a better setup later. It's been years since I played around with electronics so i am rusty, perhaps best for me to now focus on a minimum viable product, ie, getting the board and printer working, expand upon it later.

                    jay_s_ukundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @buurman
                      last edited by

                      @buurman yes, basically. although RRF only monitors endstops during a certain move type, theres still a change for EMC to cause false triggers of the endstops.
                      This is even more of an issue on the artillery printers that use ribbons. They are notorious for having false triggers etc especially when the wagster mod is used to add a bltouch

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

                      buurmanundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • buurmanundefined
                        buurman @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by

                        @jay_s_uk yeah mine has the extra pins on the extruder board BLT so that should not be an issue. I could just run a cable up to the y endstop (thats the only one that goes through the ribbon).

                        Should be okay like that, right? Because i think i still have some new mech end switches laying around 🙂

                        jay_s_ukundefined fcwiltundefined 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @buurman
                          last edited by

                          @buurman give it a go and see if you get any trouble

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @buurman
                            last edited by

                            @buurman

                            There is a video out there showing that microswitches are actually very, very good when it comes to repeatability.

                            They are simple, safe and if you don't use the plain kind (not circuit board) they only need 2 wires. If you go the route be sure to the the COM and NC connections.

                            The kind with the circuit board have a couple of advantages (usually). They provide an LED to verify state. The signal is actively pulled-down or pulled-up so the signal wire to the Duet is never dealing with an open circuit which can act like an antenna pickup up noise.

                            There may be kinds a circuit board that don't behave that way but all the ones I have used do.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • First post
                              Last post
                            Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA