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    jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
    last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:32

    @jay_s_uk ok and jerk?

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      jay_s_uk @jamaicarasta
      last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:32

      @jamaicarasta just leave them at what you print at. klipper usually recommends around 5mm/s

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
        last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:42

        @jay_s_uk Ok now i have it. What now? M593 P"zvd" F41 write in my config? Is that for x and y?
        IMG_3894.JPG IMG_3893.JPG

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          jay_s_uk @jamaicarasta
          last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:45

          @jamaicarasta you're best off recording without any input shaper applied first and then see what affect each one has.
          then yes, add whatever you choose to config.g and its its applied to both X and Y

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
            last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:48

            @jay_s_uk Ok first test with none, than look what is the flattest curve?

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              jay_s_uk @jamaicarasta
              last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:49

              @jamaicarasta yes, but try and avoid ei2 and ei3 as they can slow down the print

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:52

                @jay_s_uk Ok, what is the fastest shaper? than i will try it first with a test print

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                  jay_s_uk @jamaicarasta
                  last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:52

                  @jamaicarasta work down the list, so MZV, ZVD etc

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                    jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:53

                    @jay_s_uk and what is the center shaper hz?

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                      jay_s_uk @jamaicarasta
                      last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:54

                      @jamaicarasta thats the frequency in the input shaping is applied around. so you want to pick either the largest peak if you only have one or the middle of the peaks. the plugin will show you how much it thinks the peaks will be reduced by

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                        jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 10:59

                        @jay_s_uk ok,but with the command M593 I enter the value 41hz which is displayed in my file on the left, right? But where is the center shaper entered?

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                          jay_s_uk @jamaicarasta
                          last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 11:02

                          @jamaicarasta there is a box on the right to set the centre frequency value.
                          Most of the input shapers are centred around this value (MZV isn't)

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                            jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                            last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 11:07

                            @jay_s_uk ok
                            I will try M593 P"MZV" F41 and make a test print. IMG_3895.JPG

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                              jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                              last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 11:16

                              @jay_s_uk ok i understand, i must activate the hook when i change the center frequency

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                                jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                                last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 11:29

                                @jay_s_uk and can i delete the acc file in my system?

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                                  jay_s_uk @jamaicarasta
                                  last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 11:32

                                  @jamaicarasta the file generated by the original accelerometer plugin? yes

                                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                                    last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 11:33

                                    @jay_s_uk yes first try without your tips

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                                      jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                                      last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 11:51

                                      @jay_s_ukDo I understand that correctly, nothing is required in the system files. The M593 P"zvd" F46 command in the config file is sufficient.

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                                        jay_s_uk @jamaicarasta
                                        last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 11:58

                                        @jamaicarasta correct

                                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          jamaicarasta @jay_s_uk
                                          last edited by 18 Jul 2022, 13:48

                                          @jay_s_uk Thanks for your help man, now the Test print. That was the Print yesterday without shaper. 100mm/s and 7000accel. Not bad with 7000accel. Voron 350 with lgx lite and carbon x axis and 1 mgn12 rail.
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