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    • Norderundefined
      Norder @tmreith
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      @tmreith
      I have never noticed such a miscalculation.
      Maybe that's because I pay more attention to the height in mm, if it's necessary.

      It will certainly not be long before someone can say something about it or has suspicions.
      A little patience 😉

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      Mir ist so eine Fehlberechnung noch nicht aufgefallen.
      Das liegt vielleicht daran das ich eher auf die Höhe in mm achte, wenn es denn mal notwendig ist.

      Es wird sicher nicht lange dauern bis jemand etwas dazu sagen kann oder Vermutungen hat.
      Etwas Gedult 😉

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      • tmreithundefined
        tmreith @Norder
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        @norder
        f84f6bc7-14cb-42eb-ad74-7cfeae917259-image.png

        R = (1-4) : 4 layers - raft mix
        A = (5-19) : 15 layers at 0.100mm
        B= (20-76) : 57 layers at 0.150mm

        Total 76 layers

        I have uploaded a sample file for the above cube with variable layer heights to show the effect.

        10X10X10.gcode

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        • Norderundefined
          Norder @tmreith
          last edited by Norder

          @tmreith
          This is what the Prusa GCode Viewer shows me...
          a.JPG

          The first layer is an incredible 0.5mm thick... it certainly won't be a 0.4mm nozzle.
          The number of 76 layers is displayed on the right edge.
          I have colored the heights of the layers (see screenshot on the left).

          Have you ever tried another slicer to see if it shows the correct number of layers?

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          Das zeigt mir der Prusa GCode Viewer an...
          (Screenshot siehe oben)
          Die erste Schicht ist unglaubliche 0,5mm dick... eine 0,4mm Düse wird es bestimmt nicht sein.
          Die Anzahl von 76 Layern wird am rechten Rand angezeigt.
          Ich habe die Höhen der Schichten farblich anzeigen lassen (siehe links auf dem Screenshot).

          Hast Du schon einmal einen anderen Slicer ausprobiert ob der eine korrekte Layeranzahl anzeigt ?

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          • Norderundefined
            Norder @Norder
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            I simulated the GCode on my printer and the following values came out.
            The layer heights are only correct from layer 29, before that they deviate extremely from 0.1mm.
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            2.JPG
            3.JPG
            4.JPG

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            Ich habe den GCode mal auf meinem Drucker simuliert und dabei sind folgende Werte heraus gekommen.
            Erst ab Layer 29 sind die Schichthöhen korrekt, vorher weichen sie doch schon extrem von der 0,1mm ab.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @tmreith
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              @tmreith said in Layer tracking with variable layer heights:

              However DWC seems to be calculating layers from a perceived Z height and layer heights.

              Yes this may be the case.

              What version of firmware and DWC are you running?

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              • tmreithundefined
                tmreith @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux
                Board: Duet 3 MB6HC (MB6HC)
                DSF Version: 3.3.0
                Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC 3.3 (2021-06-15)
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                I thought there was a keyword like "layer count" or "num_layers" that was being read in past before DWC would try to calculate based on a layer_height value and the max Z value.

                The mixed layer heights are definitely messing with the layer calculation.

                I have full control over the gcode, so I can add in the required commented value to drive the DWC.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  Can you update to 3.4.1?

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                  • tmreithundefined
                    tmreith @Phaedrux
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                    @phaedrux
                    unfortunately not. The machines are validated to 3.3 and would require a re-validation effort if I updated the firmware.

                    Is there a layer count keyword that is still being used in the g-code? I can insert what ever DWC needs to establish a value vs trying to calculate from a Z height and the layer height value.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      See if you can add num_layers=## to the end of the file.

                      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/27471/num_layers-in-g-code/4?_=1662052426372

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                      • tmreithundefined
                        tmreith @Phaedrux
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                        @phaedrux
                        I added the following to the end of the gcode file, and there was no effect.

                        ; num_layers=64
                        

                        I looked at the source code for FileInfoParser.cpp and it definitely has a routine to parse "num_layers" keyword. I am not sure why the DWC doesn't seem to see the value.

                        I have another machine running 3.4.1, so I'll give it a try on that machine over the weekend.

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                        • tmreithundefined
                          tmreith @tmreith
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                          @tmreith
                          Works on a Duet 2 Wifi running 3.4.1.

                          Added the following to the last line in gcode file.

                          ; num_layers: 64
                          
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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Maybe a limitation or bug in the DuetPi version?

                            @chrishamm

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                            • chrishammundefined
                              chrishamm administrators @tmreith
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                              @tmreith @Phaedrux Parsing the number of layers (aka num_layers) isn't supported in DSF or RRF v3.3. In order to use this feature you must be on v3.4 or newer.

                              PS: Until v3.4 RRF/DSF attempt to compute the number of layers from the object height (last absolute G0/G1 Z command in the print file) and the layer height. If you have an extra G1 Z lift command in there, the reported object height and the number of layers are probably wrong.

                              Duet software engineer

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @chrishamm
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                                @chrishamm said in Layer tracking with variable layer heights:

                                If you have an extra G1 Z lift command in there, the reported object height and the number of layers are probably wrong.

                                His end code Z lift has ; E on the line.

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                                • chrishammundefined
                                  chrishamm administrators @Phaedrux
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                                  @phaedrux It is correctly processed by DSF 3.4.1, I just checked (object height = 11.05mm). The number of layers was not present in the original file but once added that is parsed correctly, too.

                                  Duet software engineer

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