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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk @A Former User
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      @Herve_Smith none of the boards running RRF, duet or teamgloomy ones will currently support the fly-sb2040

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @jay_s_uk
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        @Herve_Smith we have an experimental build for RP2040-based CAN-connected tool boards in the 3.5-dev branch of the Duet3Expansion and CoreN2G projects. However there is no specific build configuration for the Fly-SB2040 board. so you would need to create one yourself.

        We have yet to do torture tests on CAN-FD/RP2040-based boards, so we don't yet know whether they will provide the required comms reliability. We plan to run such tests soon. The existing Fly RP2040 boards use a lower speed CAN transceiver that we use on Duets, and although it appears to work in our initial testing, that could be problematic e.g. at higher than normal temperatures, especially as RP2040-based CAN implementations do not implement transmitter delay compensation.

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk @dc42
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          @dc42 the SB2040 is a different implementation than the board you have seen. It may well require hardware changes before it would be suitable. for example it has a SIT1040TK as a CAN transceiver
          SB2040_Schematic.pdf

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • jay_s_ukundefined
              jay_s_uk @A Former User
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              @Herve_Smith Theres no current plans to support CAN 2.0. As dc42 mentioned, they are working on bring CAN-FD to RP2040 based toolboards.
              With the teamgloomy port, none of the STM32F4 MCU's support CAN-FD. Only the STM32H7 MCU's do.
              At the moment, the supported list of boards to connect over CAN-FD is

              • Duet 3 6HC (in expansion board mode - M954)
              • Duet 3 6XD (in expansion board mode - M954)
              • Duet 3 Mini 5+ (in expansion board mode - M954)
              • Fysetc Big Dipper (in expansion board mode - M954)
              • Another STM32H723 board (in expansion board mode - M954)
              • Another STM32H743 board (in expansion board mode - M954)
              • Duet 3 1XD
              • Duet 3 3HC
              • Duet 3 1HCL
              • Duet 3 1LC
              • Duet 3 Distribution Board
              • Sammy-C21

              The only toolboards are the Duet 3 1LC. Fysetc has cloned them but they currently have no stock of the MCU to manufacture any more

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                  jay_s_uk @A Former User
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                  @Herve_Smith i've mounted my toolboard to the back of the X carriage. Theres enough room for it not to come into contact with the z chain.
                  PXL_20221201_135456208.jpg

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @A Former User
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                      @Herve_Smith feel free to swap over to klipper then.
                      no idea what the eta will be on RP2040 toolboard support

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          R4ffers @A Former User
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                          @Herve_Smith I went with the dirtybird toolhead and let the 1lc hang out there in all its glory lol.c114ce86-f461-44aa-8400-fc8f4bcbd985-image.png 73b3fe9e-3a07-48c6-a6d4-c1fe56ab9146-image.png

                          Mb6hc + 3hc + 1lc on Voron V2.4, Mini 5+ exp 2+ on Vzbot 235 AWD, Duet 2 wifi on Ox CNC and Mini 5+ on Millennium Milo v1.5 mini mill.

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                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                            jay_s_uk @A Former User
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                            @Herve_Smith that's nice looking. I need to revise my toolhead location as I plan on switching to tap and I won't have the rear mounting position available any more.

                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                              R4ffers @jay_s_uk
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                              @jay_s_uk tap seems to be pretty good from what I hear. Just not sure if I'll go for it yet.

                              Mb6hc + 3hc + 1lc on Voron V2.4, Mini 5+ exp 2+ on Vzbot 235 AWD, Duet 2 wifi on Ox CNC and Mini 5+ on Millennium Milo v1.5 mini mill.

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                              • jay_s_ukundefined
                                jay_s_uk @R4ffers
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                                @R4ffers gives me something to do.
                                at least it'll work nicely with RRF too

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                  R4ffers @jay_s_uk
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                                  @jay_s_uk aye, let me know how get on especially with your light weight X rail. I've got one on order

                                  Mb6hc + 3hc + 1lc on Voron V2.4, Mini 5+ exp 2+ on Vzbot 235 AWD, Duet 2 wifi on Ox CNC and Mini 5+ on Millennium Milo v1.5 mini mill.

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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk @R4ffers
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                                    @R4ffers the lightweight x rail is great. i temporarily had a carbon fibre one but that was awful. worth the investment

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                                        jay_s_uk @A Former User
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                                        @Herve_Smith said in Non Duet Hardware with RRF ?:

                                        @jay_s_uk
                                        @R4ffers

                                        I just drew up a modified version of the "tap" that is lighter, uses less hardware and uses a pair of cross roller guides instead of a linear rail for stability

                                        knock knock 1.png

                                        knock knock 2.png

                                        Cross roller guides? Do you have a link to those?

                                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                                            jay_s_uk @A Former User
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                                            @Herve_Smith thanks. I've ordered a set in preparation

                                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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