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    • gumbyundefined
      gumby
      last edited by

      I have my machine up and running, but have this mysterious problem.

      When I grow my parts, the one axis is slanted. (See Pics). ( I printed one good one on my other printer to show what they should look like.)

      I have no idea why this is occurring. I have quadruple checked every parameter I can find. I re-sliced, changed settings, tried changing the amperage on the motors in case there was lost steps, but it has no skipping, and everything seems smooth. It is also repeatable, which makes a lost steps issue seem unlikely to me. Has anyone else seen this, or how I may approach troubleshooting this problem?
      Angled_04.jpg Angled_03.jpg Angled_02.jpg Angled_01.jpg
      Thanks in advance.
      Gumby

      (Duet3 Mini+ Wifi, with Smart effector on a delta rig 24v. liquid cooled, zesty nimble extruder)

      Here is my config file contents.

      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.16 on Thu Apr 20 2023 10:24:19 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                                           				; send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                           				; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"Predator"                              				; set printer name
                                                                ;M665 X -0.137°, Y 0.131°, Z 0.000°
      M665 R232.466 L450.7 B185 H408.062              			; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
      M666 X0.43 Y-0.05 Z-0.38                                 	; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
      M81 C"!pson" 								  				; allocate the PS_ON pin to power control but leave power off
      ;M579 X1.0309 Y1.0245 Z.9935								; Scale Compensation
      
      ; Network
      M552 S1                                       				; enable network
      M586 P0 S1                                    				; enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S1                                    				; enable FTP
      M586 P2 S1                                    				; enable Telnet
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0.0 S1                                  				; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
      M569 P0.1 S1                                  				; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
      M569 P0.2 S1                                  				; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
      M569 P0.3 S1                                  				; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3                      				; set drive mapping
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                       				; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z160.00 E5700             				; set steps per mm
      M566 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z3000.00 E36.00      				; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1800.00   				; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X8000.00 Y8000.00 Z8000.00 E120.00      				; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E500 I30               				; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                       				; Set idle timeout
      M591 D0.3 P2 C"io5.in" S1  					  				; filament monitor connected to E0 endstop
      M591 D0.3									  				; display filament sensor parameters for extruder drive 0
      M376 H30                                                    ; Taper mesh comp over 30mm of distance from Zero. 
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X-9999:9999 Y-9999:9999 Z-9999:9999 					; set axis minima and maxima
      
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"io6.in"                          				; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
      M574 Y1 S1 P"io1.in"                          				; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
      M574 Z1 S1 P"io2.in"                          				; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in
      
      ; Z-Probe
      M558 P8 R0.4 C"io3.in+io3.out" H5 F1200 T6000 				; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
      ;M558 H30                                      				;*** Remove this line after delta calibration has been done and new delta parameters have been saved
      G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1                              			; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 R185 S40                                 				; define mesh grid
      
      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  				; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
      M950 H0 C"out0" T0                            				; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 R0.399 K0.380:0.000 D1.32 E1.35 S1.00 B0 			; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0                                       				; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S120                                  				; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  				; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
      M950 H1 C"out2" T1                            				; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 R2.382 K0.347:0.000 D6.45 E1.35 S1.00 B0            ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S300                                  				; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
      
      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"out5" Q500                          				; create fan 0 on pin out5 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0 H-1                                				; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"out6" Q500                          				; create fan 1 on pin out6 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                             				; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                              				; define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                               				; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0                                  				; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      ; Custom settings are not defined
      
      ; Miscellaneous
      M575 P1 S1 B57600							 				;Panel Due enable command
      T0                                           				; select first tool
      
      
      
      
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      • rjenkinsgbundefined
        rjenkinsgb
        last edited by

        What happens if you jog Z over the full height range - does the nozzle move purely vertical or have a lateral offset with height??

        It's not likely, but the only things I can think of are a stepper with a different physical step count, or a pulley with a different size?

        Robert J.

        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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        • o_lampeundefined
          o_lampe @gumby
          last edited by o_lampe

          @gumby
          Could it be caused by effector tilt during calibration? Is the wiring loom to the effector too tight/short to reach each probe point without strain?

          Side note: It seems you have to print many of these things? Their shape would be perfect for moulding, IMHO.

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          • gumbyundefined
            gumby @o_lampe
            last edited by

            It seems like it may be mechanical.

            I have been trying several more fixes and will post when I come to some sort of conclusion in case it helps someone else.

            Cheers,
            Gumby

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            • gumbyundefined
              gumby @gumby
              last edited by

              I changed a lot of variables, but it seemed to boil down to reducing acceleration and maximum instantaneous speed change.

              It has introduced corner blobs, but now I will try to dial in pressure advance and accelerometer tuning.

              So thanks for helping me work the issue out.

              Cheers,
              Gumby

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @gumby
                last edited by dc42

                @gumby I'm glad you resolved it. It looks like your machine was skipping steps. You might like to check what maximum speeds you can expect before motor torque starts to drop, using the calculator at https://www.reprapfirmware.org/emf.html.

                Your M566 XYZ jerk settings were particularly high (3000). Values of 600 to 900 are usual. They only need to be high enough for curves to print smoothly.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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