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    • chrishammundefined
      chrishamm administrators @benecito
      last edited by

      @benecito See https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/issues/862

      jaysuk created this issue in Duet3D/RepRapFirmware

      closed [FeatureRequest]: M591 filament monitoring option for USB control #862

      Duet software engineer

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      • benecitoundefined
        benecito @chrishamm
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        @chrishamm @jay_s_uk thanks for the suggestion! Just wanted to try it out, but did not even get that far as it's status stays at "ok" even if there is no more filament in the sensor and the print is paused on a sd print.
        Also is there a limitation not documented if the filament monitor is connected to a CAN board (duet 3 mini slave)
        I get information back when sending M591 but no calibration values and the print does not pause. It works when it's connected to the mainboard.

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk @benecito
          last edited by

          @benecito the filament monitor has to be on the same board as the extruder driver.
          there are some temporary limitations in place https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/RepRapFirmware/CAN_limitations

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          • benecitoundefined
            benecito @jay_s_uk
            last edited by

            @jay_s_uk I know about those and the extruder driver was always on the same board as the filament monitor

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            • jay_s_ukundefined
              jay_s_uk @benecito
              last edited by

              @benecito looks like there are a few things that aren't reported in the OM for filament sensors, especially when over CAN-FD. https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+filament

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              • benecitoundefined
                benecito @jay_s_uk
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                @jay_s_uk @chrishamm To be honest I don't care so much if it's reported in the OM or not. The proposed "workaround" at https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/issues/862 does not work if the status is always "ok". Rearranging the extruders and the filament monitors to the mainboard could be done, but is not the preferred option.

                Is there another parameter than sensors.filamentMonitors[0].status that might help to achieve the idea of using deamon.g

                jaysuk created this issue in Duet3D/RepRapFirmware

                closed [FeatureRequest]: M591 filament monitoring option for USB control #862

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk @benecito
                  last edited by jay_s_uk

                  @benecito no, thats the point of my response, sensors.filamentMonitors[0].status is from the object model...
                  there isn't another way to query something

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • benecitoundefined
                    benecito @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by

                    @jay_s_uk all right - so the conclusion is, that we can't use any filament monitor as of now?

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @benecito
                      last edited by

                      @benecito you can use them on the mainboard but it looks as though the reporting over CAN-FD needs work. but hopefully someone like @dc42 can chime in

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • benecitoundefined
                        benecito @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by

                        @jay_s_uk But that's my point - even when connected to the mainboard sensors.filamentMonitors[0].status will stay at "ok" when I run out of filament

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @benecito
                          last edited by

                          @benecito that may be a bug then. what firmware version are you running?

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • benecitoundefined
                            benecito @jay_s_uk
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                            @jay_s_uk 3.5.0 beta 3

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                            • timoschuettundefined
                              timoschuett
                              last edited by

                              Hi, are there any updates on how to enable filament monitoring while printing via usb? Is there a new enable mode which needs to be used?
                              Thanks, Timo

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                              • jay_s_ukundefined
                                jay_s_uk @timoschuett
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                                @timoschuett you use S2 in M591 https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m591-configure-filament-sensing
                                only supported in 3.5RC1 and newer

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                  T3P3Tony administrators @timoschuett
                                  last edited by

                                  @timoschuett see the M591 documentation:
                                  https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m591-configure-filament-sensing

                                  The S2 parameter.

                                  www.duet3d.com

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                                  • benecitoundefined
                                    benecito @timoschuett
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                                    @timoschuett please be aware it does not really work yet.

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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk @benecito
                                      last edited by

                                      @benecito have you reported any problems with it that you're having?

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      • benecitoundefined
                                        benecito @jay_s_uk
                                        last edited by

                                        @jay_s_uk we're in contact and diagnosing the issue yes

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                                        • timoschuettundefined
                                          timoschuett
                                          last edited by timoschuett

                                          Thank you guys! I must been blind while reading the wiki earlier, have not found anything about it. Now i`ve found it 🙂
                                          @benecito what exactly "does not really work yet" ?

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators @timoschuett
                                            last edited by dc42

                                            @timoschuett we have one user (only one AFAIK) who has an intermittent issue with a filament monitor connected to a Duet 3 Mini. Apart from that, I believe all the outstanding issues have been addressed in the 3.5.0-rc.1+ firmware builds, which are available at https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/tjznycpk7bv7sj71p0ssl/h?rlkey=096p4nvgmigyrb20jj8olg3wu&dl=0.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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