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    • themaxx2kundefined
      themaxx2k
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      Hi
      i used Duet for a long time, but since several firmwares i have a big issue while heating the extruder...
      i often get a heater fault, checked wiring and Temp Sensor, no broken wires. In diagram it looks like
      a wrong temp is read, there are temp spikes visible, also some time i got a temp rising too slow error...
      Never had problems with firmware 2.x. It seems that some time the sensor is not read correctly.
      And is there a way to set the expected rise delta somewhere?

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      • jens55undefined
        jens55 @themaxx2k
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        @themaxx2k, it might help if you post a picture of your heat graph that shows the problem.
        While I am not saying that this is the fault, I think all the thermocouple faults I have had presented themselves as intermittent problems. If your temperature suddenly drops (ie a very sudden drop in the temp graph), then it is quite possible that the sensor is kaputt.
        There is no direct way of setting the temperature rise parameter. After you have run the heater tuning, you play with the configuration line that the Duet gives you. See the docs for what each parameter does.

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          themaxx2k
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          • themaxx2kundefined
            themaxx2k
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            DBot2.png DBOT1.png

            Here you can see the graph.

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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators @themaxx2k
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              @themaxx2k What type of temperature sensor are you using? A graph like that indicates a wiring issue, failing sensor, or interference.

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              • themaxx2kundefined
                themaxx2k @droftarts
                last edited by themaxx2k

                @droftarts Weird is that it is only happening during heatup, no issuse while printing.... no spikes during an 10 hrs printjob, then next heatup again spikes... maybe the firmware is poling the temp in different situations on different durations, so the spikes dont show during printing, maybe it polls more frequent during heatup... tried to wiggle the cables, but no drops or spikes...

                and its an ATC Semitec 104GT-2 M3 screw-in sensor.
                config-override:
                M307 H0 R0.129 C700.000:700.000 D10.00 S1.00 V0.0 B1
                M307 H1 R1.737 C336.747:336.747 D7.46 S0.75 V12.2 B0

                Config:
                ; Heaters
                M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

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                • jens55undefined
                  jens55 @themaxx2k
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                  @themaxx2k, no. not weird at all. I had a failure of a thermistor exactly like that. It would be rock solid once running but when heating up from cold it would throw an occasional snit fit. In my case it was usually only one or two excursions but that was enough to cause a heater fault. I replaced the sensor and everything was fine again.

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