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    • bartolomeusundefined
      bartolomeus
      last edited by

      Hi,

      I have my new Duet hooked up to a 24v PSU and I want to use 12v (silent) fans, specially for the e3d v6 hotend.
      I have read that you can connect a 12v step down to the fan v_in, but what is a good spot to connect ground?

      Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere. I used the search function and all I could find was "connect step-down to fan v_in".

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      • krzakuundefined
        krzaku
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        Common ground for 24v and 12v is fine.

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        • whosrdaddyundefined
          whosrdaddy
          last edited by

          oh there are topics on this, sure enough, search for "12V fan 24V".
          Here's one: https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?pid=30375#p30375

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          • bartolomeusundefined
            bartolomeus
            last edited by

            @whosrdaddy:

            oh there are topics on this, sure enough, search for "12V fan 24V".
            Here's one: https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?pid=30375#p30375

            Thanks, but non mention where to connect ground. Maybe because it's too obvious, it's just not that obvious to me.

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            • bartolomeusundefined
              bartolomeus
              last edited by

              @krzaku:

              Common ground for 24v and 12v is fine.

              Thanks, but where would that be for the output ground of the step-down? Any ground connection on the board?

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              • whosrdaddyundefined
                whosrdaddy
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                If you have a free V- position on your PSU, you could connect it there…

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  Normally the input and output grounds of the step-down converter are connected together internally. Use a multimeter to check. So you need only connect one of them.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • timcurtis67undefined
                    timcurtis67
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                    Here is a link to what I used to run my 12 volt fans from my 24 volt duetwifi board.

                    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GJ0SC2C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                    I wired them straight to the fan connectors on the duet. (pos. to pos. and ground to ground.) They work great that way as long a you don't pull more than 1.5 amps, that is all the load the mosfets can take.

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                    • bartolomeusundefined
                      bartolomeus
                      last edited by

                      @dc42:

                      Normally the input and output grounds of the step-down converter are connected together internally. Use a multimeter to check. So you need only connect one of them.

                      @whosrdaddy:

                      If you have a free V- position on your PSU, you could connect it there…

                      Thanks!

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                      • bartolomeusundefined
                        bartolomeus
                        last edited by

                        @timcurtis67:

                        Here is a link to what I used to run my 12 volt fans from my 24 volt duetwifi board.

                        https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GJ0SC2C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                        I wired them straight to the fan connectors on the duet. (pos. to pos. and ground to ground.) They work great that way as long a you don't pull more than 1.5 amps, that is all the load the mosfets can take.

                        Those are almost identical to the ones I have. However, if you wire them straight to the fan connectors, is it still possible to control fan speed?

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                        • Yonkimanundefined
                          Yonkiman
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                          At the risk of being redundant I want to clearly spell this out:

                          The VIN+ of the regulator connects to your +24V supply.

                          The VIN-/GND of the regulator connects to the GND of your +24V supply.

                          VIN- and VOUT- of the regulator are the same voltage (GND) and already connected on the regulator, so you don't even need to run a wire to VOUT-.

                          If all your fans are 12V, you should connect VOUT+ (the 12V from the regulator) to the middle pin (pin 2) of J3 (Fan Voltage Select) - DO NOT CONNECT ANYTHING to the other two pins (pins 1 and 3). Then connect your fans normally to the fan headers - they will all be 12V, whether switched or unswitched.

                          If some fans are 24V and some are 12V, then there should be a jumper between pins 2 and 3 of J3. Connect your 24V fans normally using the fan headers.

                          For the 12V fan(s), you need to connect the positive (red) fan lead to the +12V output of the regulator. This connection will not be made on the Duet - you can splice wires together or design a little adapter board if you want to keep the fan's plug intact. Connect the negative (black) fan lead to pin 2 (the "-" terminal) of the desired fan header. Nothing should be connected to pin 1.

                          Hope this helps.

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                          • Yonkimanundefined
                            Yonkiman
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                            And yes you will be able to control the fan speed of any fan (12V and/or24V) connected to the FAN0, FAN1, or FAN2 headers.

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                            • bartolomeusundefined
                              bartolomeus
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                              Thanks, I think I am starting to understand

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