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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @jensus11
      last edited by

      @jensus11 the humming sound is most likely caused by the PWM being reduced as the temperature nears the target. It's unlikely that you will be able to get rid of it completely (other than by using a different type of bed heater) but you may be able to shift it to a less annoying pitch using the M950 F parameter.

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      • jensus11undefined
        jensus11
        last edited by

        That sounds good, what I have to change it?

        M307 H0 R0.475 K0.931:0.000 D7.84 E1.35 S1.00 B0
        
        M308 S0 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 C7.06e-8           	; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
        M950 H0 C"bed" T0                                        			; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
        M140 H0                                                  			; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S100								             			; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 100C 
        
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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @jensus11
          last edited by dc42

          @jensus11 add the F Q parameter to the M950 command. Assuming it's a DC heater, try e.g. Q10, Q30, Q100.

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          • jensus11undefined
            jensus11
            last edited by

            I want to test the F25 and became this message.

            Fehler in Startdatei macro Zeile 69: exactly one of EFHJPSR must be given
            
            M950 H0 C"bed" T0 F25
            
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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators @jensus11
              last edited by

              @jensus11 Use the Q parameter for PWM frequency. See https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m950-create-heater-fan-spindle-led-strip-or-gpioservo-pin

              Ian

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              • jensus11undefined
                jensus11
                last edited by

                I'm using this external mosfet. If I use a different one, will the noise go away?
                With Q50 the annoying sound is almost silent. Can I use it or will something break?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @jensus11
                  last edited by

                  @jensus11 Q50 is fine. You will probably hear a slight buzz.

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                  • jensus11undefined
                    jensus11 @dc42
                    last edited by jensus11

                    @dc42
                    I haven't bought an inductive sensor yet. I can't find one, they're sold out everywhere.

                    But an idea is, of it is possible to define measuring points for the BLTouch so that I can find the position of the magnet and measure there and use this for the heightmap.

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                    • droftartsundefined
                      droftarts administrators @jensus11
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                      @jensus11 you can define points in the mesh for the BLTouch to avoid, see the notes on G29 S4 here: https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#notes-8

                      Ian

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                      • jensus11undefined
                        jensus11 @droftarts
                        last edited by

                        I have defined the mesh point in the probePoint.csv file.
                        But the result looks not good. I think the magnets are so strong and interfere with the BLTouch when measuring.
                        So on, I need an inductive sensor.

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                        • jensus11undefined
                          jensus11
                          last edited by

                          I have now installed an inductive sensor. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way either.
                          The measurement stops above a magnet and this message appears.

                          Error: M280: Probe already triggered before probing move started.
                          

                          What can I do?
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                          • troydemingundefined
                            troydeming @jensus11
                            last edited by

                            I have been using a bltouch with a magnetic bed for years with no issues. did you get it figured out?

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @jensus11
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                              @jensus11

                              In my opinion your best bet is to replace that sheet of magnets with 3M flexible magnetic self-adhesive sheet.

                              I've used that with all sorts of Z probes and they seem to work just fine.

                              I used to be a fan of BuildTak until the went with a sheet of little magnets - I've moved on from them.

                              Frederick

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