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    • MurphDurtayundefined
      MurphDurtay @MurphDurtay
      last edited by MurphDurtay

      @MurphDurtay 20250126_164017.mp4

      This is a video showing the issue.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @MurphDurtay
        last edited by

        @MurphDurtay we'll need to see your config.g file and the GCode file too.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        • MurphDurtayundefined
          MurphDurtay @dc42
          last edited by

          @dc42 sorry about that, here is the Gcode file and my config file.

          config.g

          CFFFP_3d Printer Foot v2.gcode

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          • MurphDurtayundefined
            MurphDurtay
            last edited by

            switched back to a 0.5mm nozzle. and still have the same problem. Can anyone confirm if the
            G-code I posted has the same issue as the video when printed on another coreXY?

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              ; Extruders
              M584 E0.0 ; set extruder mapping
              M350 E1 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M906 E1100 ; set extruder driver currents
              M92 E562 ; configure steps per mm
              M566 E3000 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 E12000 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 E5000 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              

              This is a very strange extruder setup. What kind of extruder is this?

              Are you able to extrude in free air from the DWC extrusion commands?

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Try reslicing the file with the same speed for walls and infills.

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                • MurphDurtayundefined
                  MurphDurtay @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux said in Printer won't extrude walls of prints.:

                  ; Extruders
                  M584 E0.0 ; set extruder mapping
                  M350 E1 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                  M906 E1100 ; set extruder driver currents
                  M92 E562 ; configure steps per mm
                  M566 E3000 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 E12000 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 E5000 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  

                  This is a very strange extruder setup. What kind of extruder is this?

                  Are you able to extrude in free air from the DWC extrusion commands?

                  What is strange about the extruder setup? It's the Bondtech LGX Lite V2. It extrudes fine in free air through the DWC, even on the infill of prints, just not the outer walls for some reason.

                  I'm currently warming up my printer to try reprinting with all of the speeds set to 45mm/s to see if that helps.

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                  • MurphDurtayundefined
                    MurphDurtay @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux said in Printer won't extrude walls of prints.:

                    Try reslicing the file with the same speed for walls and infills.

                    Just tried this and still the same behaviour as the video. It also won't extrude while printing out the skirt either, which it has done this whole time I just forgot to mention it...

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Why 1x micro stepping?

                      Have you tried with pla instead of tpu?

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                      • MurphDurtayundefined
                        MurphDurtay @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux I think that may have been the default when I used the firmware configurator but I can't remember.

                        I tried printing the same part with a 8mm Brim and the printer doesn't extrude when going around the rim except for a small section of the brim. The small bit that does extrude always occurs at the same spot in the brim.

                        I really think this is a slicer or firmware issue, but I don't have any PLA to try right now. I could try with CF Nylon but I have never printed with that so it may just be adding another variable.

                        If anyone else is running the LGX lite V2 and has firmware settings that work for them please share them with me.

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                        • MurphDurtayundefined
                          MurphDurtay @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux said in Printer won't extrude walls of prints.:

                          Why 1x micro stepping?

                          I just tried 16x microstepping and there was no change, I also tried 32X microstepping with 1124 steps per mm and still no change.

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                          • tasundefined
                            tas @MurphDurtay
                            last edited by

                            @MurphDurtay if it helps here are my settings but not a V2:
                            Duet 2 Wifi, Bondtech LGX Lite, E3DV6 hotend, 0.4mm NozzleX.

                            M584 E3;
                            M350 E16 I1;
                            M906 E400;
                            M92 E568.3 ; (eSun PLA+)
                            M566 E8000.00;
                            M203 E6000.00;
                            M201 E5000.00;

                            Your current is way too high. The Bondtech specs state 550-650 mA.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              TPU is hard to print with to begin with. Testing with PLA would be my next step.

                              When was the last time prints were working correctly?

                              I doubt it's a firmware issue, but it could be related to your configuration. 16x microstepping is the norm. If your steps per mm are way out of whack for 1x microstepping no wonder things aren't extruding well.

                              The sliced gcode file you shared shows nothing out of the ordinary when previewed in prusa slicer gcode viewer.

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                              • MurphDurtayundefined
                                MurphDurtay @tas
                                last edited by

                                @tas I just tried your exact settings but it still won't extrude along walls, brims, or skirts. As for the current I just went off of the datasheet for the stepper which is rated at 1 amp. I didn't consider that the stepper datasheet could be peak current and the config is in RMS so that would be a max in the config of 707ma so I turned it down to 700, but still having issue.

                                Can anyone see if the G-code I posted extruder should be extruding while tracing the wall?

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  160a04ae-84d5-4c6f-a3ee-cdd98425384d-image.png

                                  The only difference between the walls and infill is the extrusion width. Though the volumetric flow is lower on the walls than infill due to being slower.

                                  97efcac1-5dcd-4139-9bd1-401946949256-image.png

                                  That still may be too high for TPU. Try dropping the print speed by half.

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                                  • MurphDurtayundefined
                                    MurphDurtay @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux said in Printer won't extrude walls of prints.:

                                    TPU is hard to print with to begin with. Testing with PLA would be my next step.

                                    When was the last time prints were working correctly?

                                    I doubt it's a firmware issue, but it could be related to your configuration. 16x microstepping is the norm. If your steps per mm are way out of whack for 1x microstepping no wonder things aren't extruding well.

                                    The sliced gcode file you shared shows nothing out of the ordinary when previewed in prusa slicer gcode viewer.

                                    -I'll have to wait to get some more PLA but I don't think it's a material or bed adhesion issue

                                    -The last time prints were working correctly was before moving my printer, I had to move the printer and make a new SD card with the firmware because the old one got broken in the move. These are my first prints on the new SD card.

                                    -I have changed the settings to 16x micro-stepping and 564 steps per mm which came from the bondtech website

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by Phaedrux

                                      Try prusa slicer as a sanity check?

                                      How fast are you extruding into free air when you're testing? Are you actually matching the feed rates that would be used during the print?

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                                      • MurphDurtayundefined
                                        MurphDurtay @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux Yeah I'll try that next

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                                        • MurphDurtayundefined
                                          MurphDurtay @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux said in Printer won't extrude walls of prints.:

                                          Try prusa slicer as a sanity check?

                                          How fast are you extruding into free air when you're testing? Are you actually matching the feed rates that would be used during the print?

                                          Same behavior with prusa slicer, I'm Extruding at 2mm/s in DWC however it doesn't have a problem extruding anything but walls, brim or skirt.

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                                          • MurphDurtayundefined
                                            MurphDurtay
                                            last edited by

                                            I just tried downloading a fresh benchy STL and sliced in Cura and it still only prints a sliver of the brim.

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