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    • appjawsundefined
      appjaws
      last edited by

      As I understand it, activating pause will run the pause macro but will not run the trigger macro, also, how would I recover from the pause, without the head moving to the original paused position?

      Maybe I will just have to use the emergency stop T0 and wait for the firmware to reboot.

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman
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        Yes, pause.g is just another macro so I'd have thought that if the machine waits for the move to complete before running a trigger macro, then you'd get the same behaviour running the pause.g macro. No doubt David will put us all right.

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman
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          @appjaws:

          Maybe I will just have to use the emergency stop T0 and wait for the firmware to reboot.

          It's not a big deal to use that. Let's face it, with this "fall back switch" you'll only see this emergency stop if the Z probe fails so it won't be often - hopefully never.

          Ian
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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
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            @appjaws:

            Thank you both.
            I did have the end stop connected to Z and using T2 does reverse the Z by 5mm as indicated in the trigger macro, however, It does not stop the initial movement, the reversal only happens after the move has taken place. So in the case of a probe failure, Z just keeps moving until the hotend or bed has broken.
            I have looked at all G and M codes and can not find any that will stop the current move, other than emergency stop, Is there a way to interrupt the current move and action the trigger macro?

            A move can only be terminated by a trigger from the Z probe during a probing move, or an endstop switch trigger during a G1 S1 move, or an emergency stop, or running out of power. If you use 1.20 series firmware then you could instead use M913 Z0 to set the Z motor current to zero when a trigger occurs. However, a normal trigger doesn't have the same priority as a T0 so there might still be a delay in some cases.

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            • appjawsundefined
              appjaws
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              Thanks for all of the help.
              I'll use T0 and forget the trigger file

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              • timcurtis67undefined
                timcurtis67
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                Thank you all, This has been a good learning post. I wonder if the pause is after the programmed move is finished or after the planner buffer(?) is empty? Meaning that it completes several moves before the pause takes place?

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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman
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                  @appjaws,
                  Paul. Off topic I know but another tip in case you don't already do it, is to lower the motor currents at the start of homing. You'll need to play around to find the right value but you are looking to find the minimum that you can home reliably at. Then if the worse happens and every switch fails, a head crash won''t do too much damage. (Don't forget to put the motor currents back up again at the end of homing).
                  Also, I added extra micro switches to X and Y and Z axes maxima and wired them all in series with the Z min so if any one triggers, it'll initiate an emergency stop. This is just for when I'm playing around and attempt to move beyond the axes limits before I've homed the printer. Oh and finally, I added big red emergency stop button and wired that to another estop. It's not a true emergency stop because it doesn't cut power, so wouldn't be much use in the event of a fire. But have an RCD conveniently placed that I can easily trip in that eventuality.

                  @timcurtis
                  Tim. I wasn't ignoring you - just don't know the answer to your question 🙂 My guess would be just the current move buy David will confirm or otherwise.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    @timcurtis67:

                    Thank you all, This has been a good learning post. I wonder if the pause is after the programmed move is finished or after the planner buffer(?) is empty? Meaning that it completes several moves before the pause takes place?

                    The trigger file starts running asynchronously with respect to commands already being executed, with a few caveats:

                    • If multiple trigger events other than T0 are pending, only one can be executed at a time. So you might have to wait until the previous trigger macro completes.
                    • There might be another process accessing the SD card at the time.
                    • If the trigger macro commands any movement or uses any command that affects movement (other than M906 and M913 in firmware 1.20 and later), all the moves already in the movement queue are completed first.

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                    • timcurtis67undefined
                      timcurtis67
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                      Thank you for the clarification David.
                      My goal is to rig up a simple filament out switch with the pause command. At least until the filament monitors are ready for sale.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        See the description of M591 in the GCode wiki.

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