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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      The note about having more than one Duet on the network only applies to using the Duet 06 or 085, or the Duet Ethernet with firmware older then 1.19. You had to configure them to use different MAC addresses.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • TimVukmanundefined
        TimVukman
        last edited by

        Is there a workaround for not being able to read the SD card on the DuetWifi? My new board that arrived yesterday is giving me an "error 1 accessing SD card" message when I try to read the card from the DuetWifi board using the DuetDisplay.

        The message at the top of the display screen says Files on card 1 <_>

        I can read / write / copy etc to the little card when it is inserted in an adapter on my PC

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        • TimVukmanundefined
          TimVukman
          last edited by

          I seem to have recovered the original DuetWifi. I will go after the step #5 that you identified above.

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          • TimVukmanundefined
            TimVukman
            last edited by

            To be clear, my new DuetWifi is installed in the original cartesian printer and is unable to read the SD card.
            My original DuetWifi is installed in my new Delta which is my original reason for seeking help
            Thanks
            Tim

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            • TimVukmanundefined
              TimVukman
              last edited by

              Hi
              Firstly, thanks for the |1. That is certainly activating the probing activity. The probes are failing (not triggered) during the process since the process is starting 76mm above the print bed.

              I understand there is a max height which I believe is in the M665 early in the process. Measured from the bed to the end stop metal tab (when level) is 548mm. Everything I have read (ie the setup documentation) says I should set this at about 300 and indicates it will be adjusted later.

              Should I not take the 76mm out of the measured total 548mm height to determine that the actual height setting for M665 is 472mm?

              I also have a distance of 55mm (aprx) between the tip of the nozzle and the actuator on the switch for the probe. It doesn't appear that I need to input that number anywhere. Is that correct?

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957
                last edited by

                set the hight in the M665 to be 5mm greater then the distance from the nozzle to the bed when it is homed and adjust the Dive Hight in the M558 h param to something like 20 then it should work for you and once you've got the initial config params you can reduce the Dive hight to whatever you feel comfortable with mine is normally 5 but you can go lower if you want to shave a few seconds of the cal time

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  @TimVukman:

                  I understand there is a max height which I believe is in the M665 early in the process. Measured from the bed to the end stop metal tab (when level) is 548mm. Everything I have read (ie the setup documentation) says I should set this at about 300 and indicates it will be adjusted later.

                  No, you need to set it to be approximately right. See https://duet3d.com/wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer#Setting_up_your_initial_delta_parameters.

                  @TimVukman:

                  I also have a distance of 55mm (aprx) between the tip of the nozzle and the actuator on the switch for the probe. It doesn't appear that I need to input that number anywhere. Is that correct?

                  If you mean that the switch triggers when the nozzle is 55mm above the bed, that is the Z probe trigger height and it needs to be entered as the Z parameter in the G31 command.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                  • TimVukmanundefined
                    TimVukman
                    last edited by

                    Hi,

                    No, the switch doesn't trigger unless it actually touches something which is at .2 as indicated. What I'm saying is that 55mm needs to be travelled before the switch will be triggered.

                    What about my question on the new card that isn't reading the SD? Is there any way to get to the board and enter the data without reading the info off the card, or is there some way to test the card, or is there anything I can do to activate it from within firmware via the USB?

                    If you are pointing to the info on M665,
                    "H = height of the nozzle above the bed when all three carriages are just high enough to trigger the endstop switches. Measure it as best you can, to within about 5mm. Calibration will adjust it."

                    I read that as the start print height since it is .2mm

                    M666 is about adjusting the end stops.

                    I don't see how this applies to my question

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                    • TimVukmanundefined
                      TimVukman
                      last edited by

                      Sorry
                      Frustrated and didn't understand why you sent me back to the same reference again since it says H is the height of the nozzle above the bed. I'm trying to establish the height setting that I need to use so that the effector does not stop 76mm above the bed.

                      I have spent a huge amount of time trying different numbers in the H setting of M665 and I can't seem to find the "right" number that will allow the autodeltaconfig on the wifi interface page to take over and finalize the settings. I have been working steady on that since the first time you pointed me to that section of the configuration documentation

                      I home the printer and that's fine. M114 tells me that Z is 295.

                      I try autodeltacalibration and the effector stops 76mm above the bed. Now that I have added the |1, the printer goes through the motions of thinking that it is lowering the hot end to press the nozzle against the bed. It moves down 10mm for each point and fails because the nozzle never touches the bed.

                      I use M564 S0 to allow myself to move down to the actual bed, and then set the Z value to 0 using G92 Z0

                      Unfortunately. if I try to use G30 S-1 to probe the bed, the probe does not trigger (probe value does not switch from 3xx to 1xxx) and I have to reset the printer.

                      Since I added the |1 in the M558, do I not need to somehow set the port for the E0 end stop to active high ?

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                      • whosrdaddyundefined
                        whosrdaddy
                        last edited by

                        its I1 (capital i) not |1 as you wrote above?

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                        • TimVukmanundefined
                          TimVukman
                          last edited by

                          Really?

                          Thanks! Boy, that wasted a bunch of time…..........

                          I shall make the change and see what happens

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                          • TimVukmanundefined
                            TimVukman
                            last edited by

                            I try autodeltacalibration and the effector stops 76mm above the bed.

                            I use M564 S0 to allow myself to move down to the actual bed, and then set the Z value to 0 using G92 Z0

                            M558 P1 H10 F120 T2400

                            G30 S-1 - does not stop Probe value 311


                            Need to Home All twice

                            I try autodeltacalibration and the effector stops 76mm above the bed.
                            All probes show message that Z probe already triggered. Probe Value 688

                            I use M564 S0 to allow myself to move down to the actual bed, and then set the Z value to 0 using G92 Z0

                            G30 S-1

                            M558 P1 H10 F120 T2400 I1

                            No Movement. Message says Z Probe Already Triggered

                            Do I have to physically rewire the Z-Probe end switch?

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                            • deckingmanundefined
                              deckingman
                              last edited by

                              I don't know anything about Deltas so this is probably way off the mark but in your config.g you have the probe trigger value set to 600 so that'll be why it says triggered when the value is 688. So setting the probe trigger value (G31) higher might help. I'd guess the thing to do would be to see what the probe value is when it's just clear of the bed and again when it's just touching the bed and set the trigger value somewhere in between. Dunno, just a guess. If this sounds like a load of crap, please ignore it as Deltas "ain't my thing".

                              Ian
                              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                I still think you have the M665 H parameter wrong. When the effector is as high as it will go because the carriages are up against the endstops, how high is the nozzle above the bed?

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • TimVukmanundefined
                                  TimVukman
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Deckingman

                                  The P value which is 600 is the threshold for the electrical signal. When not triggered, it's around 311. When the switch is closed and triggered, it is 1000. The value is displayed on the Duest Interface Screen under Z-Probe

                                  Hi DC42

                                  From the nozzle (bottom of effector) to the bed is 306.5 which is the reading I orginally got when I started. It is a little lower right now because the carriages are just slightly below the metal tabs on the end stops. That is also the value that is entered in the "H" parameter as follows

                                  M665 R105.6 L220 B85 H306.5

                                  Thanks
                                  Tim
                                  Config.g

                                  [[language]]
                                  ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.20 or newer)
                                  ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jan 11 2018 11:17:44 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
                                  
                                  ; General preferences
                                  M111 S0                                                                     ; Debugging off
                                  G21                                                                         ; Work in millimetres
                                  G90                                                                         ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                  M83                                                                         ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                  M555 P2                                                                     ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
                                  ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
                                  
                                  ;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration.
                                  M665 R105.6 L220 B85 H306.5                                                 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                                  M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                                               ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                                  M208 Z-0.1 S0                                                               ; Set minimum Z
                                  
                                  ; Endstops
                                  M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1                                                            ; Set active low endstops
                                  M558 P1 H10 F120 T2400 I1                                                   ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds*
                                  G31 P500 X11 Y0 Z0.2                                                        ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                  M557 R85 S20                                                                ; Define mesh grid
                                  
                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P0 S0                                                                  ; Drive 0 goes backwards
                                  M569 P1 S0                                                                  ; Drive 1 goes backwards
                                  M569 P2 S0                                                                  ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                  M569 P3 S1                                                                  ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I0                                                     ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
                                  M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E663                                                        ; Set steps per mm
                                  M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200                                                ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E1200                                             ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000                                                ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30                                             ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30                                                                     ; Set idle timeout
                                  
                                  ; Heaters
                                  M305 P0 T100000 B3950 C0 R4700                                              ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                  M143 H0 S120                                                                ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                  M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C0 R4700                                              ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                  M143 H1 S280                                                                ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                  
                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 D0 H1                                                               ; Define tool 0
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                                             ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                  G10 P0 R0 S0                                                                ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                  
                                  ; Network
                                  M550 PFLSun Delta                                                           ; Set machine name
                                  M552 S1                                                                     ; Enable network
                                  M587 S"" P"" ; Configure access point and IP addresses. You can delete this line once connected
                                  M586 P0 S1                                                                  ; Enable HTTP
                                  M586 P1 S0                                                                  ; Disable FTP
                                  M586 P2 S0                                                                  ; Disable Telnet
                                  
                                  ; Fans
                                  M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                                                      ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                  M106 P1 S0 I0 F500 H-1                                                      ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                  M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                                                   ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                  
                                  ; Custom settings are not configured
                                  
                                  ; Miscellaneous
                                  T0                                                                          ; Select first tool
                                  
                                  
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                                  • number40fanundefined
                                    number40fan
                                    last edited by

                                    Post your bed.g and your config-override.g too, please. Homedelta.g too.

                                    You can also edit out your SSID and password from your last post.

                                    Anything in config-override won't be used if you don't have a M501 at the end of config.g.

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                                    • TimVukmanundefined
                                      TimVukman
                                      last edited by

                                      config-override.g

                                      [[language]]
                                      ; This is a system-generated file - do not edit
                                      ; Delta parameters
                                      M665 L218.000 R85.000 H306.500 B85.0 X0.000 Y0.000 Z0.000
                                      M666 X0.000 Y0.000 Z0.000 A0.00 B0.00
                                      ; Heater model parameters
                                      M307 H0 A90.0 C700.0 D10.0 S1.00 V0.0 B1
                                      M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H2 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H3 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H4 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H5 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H6 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      M307 H7 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                      
                                      

                                      Bed.g

                                      [[language]]
                                      ; bed.g
                                      ; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32
                                      ;
                                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jan 11 2018 11:17:44 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
                                      M561 ; clear any bed transform
                                      ; Probe the bed at 6 peripheral and 3 halfway points, and perform 6-factor auto compensation
                                      ; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
                                      G30 P0 X0 Y84.2 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P1 X66.01 Y38.11 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P2 X66.01 Y-38.11 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P3 X0 Y-84.2 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P4 X-73.61 Y-42.5 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P5 X-73.61 Y42.5 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P6 X0 Y41.05 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P7 X29.84 Y-17.23 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P8 X-36.81 Y-21.25 H0 Z-99999
                                      G30 P9 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
                                      ; Use S-1 for measurements only, without calculations. Use S4 for endstop heights and Z-height only. Use S6 for full 6 factors
                                      ; If your Z probe has significantly different trigger heights depending on XY position, adjust the H parameters in the G30 commands accordingly. The value of each H parameter should be (trigger height at that XY position) - (trigger height at centre of bed)
                                      
                                      

                                      Homedelta.g

                                      [[language]]
                                      ; homedelta.g
                                      ; called to home all towers on a delta printer
                                      ;
                                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jan 11 2018 11:17:44 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
                                      G91                       ; relative positioning
                                      ;*** Slow homing has been configured. Change F240 to F2400 below when your configuration is working
                                      G1 S1 X305 Y305 Z305 F240 ; move all towers to the high end stopping at the endstops (first pass)
                                      G1 X-5 Y-5 Z-5 F2400 S2   ; go down a few mm
                                      G1 S1 X10 Y10 Z10 F240    ; move all towers up once more (second pass)
                                      G1 Z-5 F2400              ; move down a few mm so that the nozzle can be centred
                                      G90                       ; absolute positioning
                                      G1 X0 Y0 F2400            ; move X+Y to the centre
                                      
                                      
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                                      • Dougal1957undefined
                                        Dougal1957
                                        last edited by

                                        tim can you home the delta measure the hight from the bed to the tip of the nozzle then do the following

                                        G91
                                        G1 z-100

                                        Remeasure the hight of the nozzle above the bed and report both figures Please

                                        I have an idea of what is wrong and that test will confirm if I am right or not?

                                        Doug

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                                        • TimVukmanundefined
                                          TimVukman
                                          last edited by

                                          Home:
                                          Height from bed to nozzle 306.5
                                          G91
                                          G1 Z-100 226.5

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
                                            last edited by

                                            So it's moved 80mm instead of 100mm. I suspect you are using 16-tooth pulleys, in which case your tower steps/mm should be set to 100 instead of 80.

                                            Thanks to Doug for picking this up.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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