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    r123
    last edited by 4 Oct 2017, 14:54 10 Apr 2017, 14:20

    That's an amazing difference.

    In the TMC2660 datasheet they don't specify currents at all for the mosfet resistances cited, but give a range of temperatures instead: if I read it correctly the resistances are tiny by comparison (<20% TMC2130) with all of the aforementioned drivers. Great choice!

    Having just milled a heatsink for the Watterott -TMC2130 board I'm playing with, was beginning to wonder where all the heat was coming from.

    Feature-wise the TMC2130 does have the ultra-silent Stealthchop mode on top of the Spreadcycle it shares with the TMC2660. But nobody is complaining about the noise!

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      r123
      last edited by 11 Apr 2017, 07:56

      Another trick the TMC2130 has hidden away is that it can interpolate to 256 microsteps from as much as a full step. (TMC2660 is constrained to interpolating from 1/16 microstep input.) Which means if your processor is limiting your top speed (try not to think about that too much!) you could set the driver to accept 1/8 microsteps and yet retain all of the smoothness of 256 interpolation.

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        DjDemonD
        last edited by 4 Nov 2017, 10:04 11 Apr 2017, 10:01

        I've installed TMC 2100's on my microdelta with nema 14 motors, running vref 0.5v (0.5A Imax) the motors are warm and the drivers are warm with heat-sinks (properly mounted to the PCB) and a 40mm fan blowing from the side, but at 0.7v which I have my extruder motor set to the motor and driver is very hot.

        Im also trying LV8729 drivers, which are very stable, run quite cool, (they have auto 50% current after 0.5sec without a step pulse) limited to 1.5A, but they must do some sort of interpolation as my flex3drive extruder is running 1/4 stepping and it quite quiet.

        Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
        www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
        PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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          rmriggin
          last edited by 10 Feb 2018, 15:11

          A version with the duet with the tmc2130 and the ability to do sensor-less homing would be a godsend IMO.

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            fma
            last edited by 10 Feb 2018, 15:24

            @DjDemonD:

            This is also of great interest https://odrive.xyz/.

            Great!

            For the next release of the Duet board, it would be nice to split the main board and the driver board, so we can choose what type of driver we want…

            Frédéric

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              DjDemonD
              last edited by 2 Oct 2018, 16:16 10 Feb 2018, 16:14

              It would certainly offer great flexibility if the driver module was just that, a module rather than integrated. There could be a choice of tmc2600 module with 5 drivers and the ability to use more than 1 as required or a plug in driver module or a breakout module for external drivers. I believe there will be a modular architecture with a serial bus+power link cable between them. The versatility will be massive, and costs for those who need a simpler system might be lower as you would not need all of the modules.

              Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
              www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
              PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                fma
                last edited by 10 Feb 2018, 16:21

                On the other hand, developing such versatility will have a cost…

                But we see more and more non-classic setup, where such modularity would be interesting. For example, a laser engraver does not need all FET/fans... They could be on a dedicated board too.

                Frédéric

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                  Mike
                  last edited by 10 Feb 2018, 21:15

                  Well, it's not like the board is closed source… So if money isn't an issue, one could always do a custom run with the needed mods. Or just get an expansion board and remap the motors to whichever drivers necessary.

                  Even if you don't need the FET outputs, it's still much cheaper to get the stock board. AFAIK, cost of small components like transistors is negligible anyway.

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                    whosrdaddy
                    last edited by 11 Feb 2018, 07:32

                    @rmriggin:

                    A version with the duet with the tmc2130 and the ability to do sensor-less homing would be a godsend IMO.

                    The Duet already got sensor-less homing?

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 11 Feb 2018, 07:43

                      Yes the Duet already supports sensorless homing. See the wiki page about it.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by 11 Feb 2018, 07:52

                        The next generation Duets will be more modular. However, modularity comes at a cost because of the additional connectors and multiple circuit boards. So we still need to put enough on the main board to be sufficient for a large proportion of users. Currently we think the main board will have 4 stepper drivers and 4 heater/fan outputs, with expandability in units of 2 stepper drivers; but we haven't finalized it yet.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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