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    tjb1
    last edited by 16 Feb 2018, 23:30

    Are PCB carriage adapters available for 20mm wide x 15mm tall bolt patterns? Looking at putting this on my Kossel Mini and would like to avoid printing an adapter.

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      T3P3Tony administrators
      last edited by 17 Feb 2018, 09:08

      Unfortunately not, you would need to change to 2020. Are you sure your mini Kossel has 2015, from memory mine had 20*20 as those are standard for mounting on rails.

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        Dougal1957
        last edited by 17 Feb 2018, 10:04

        I suspect he may have IGUS Rails tony which are 20x15 you could print a jig and then drill 2 extra holes in the Carriage PCB's I believe they are totally passive so you won't hurt anything

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          T3P3Tony administrators
          last edited by 17 Feb 2018, 10:57

          Yes that's an option although the holes at 15 would be very close to the originals at 20. (centers 5mm apart hole radius 1.5mm, only 2mm of PCB between holes).

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            Cata
            last edited by 17 Feb 2018, 13:18

            mgn12c are 20*15

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 17 Feb 2018, 13:21

              Sadly Igus doesn't offer the standard "long body" carriages that other manufacturers do.

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                c310
                last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 19:10

                Igus doesn't offer the standard "long body" carriages

                dc42, what do you think on hiwin QHH15CA carriage?
                https://motioncontrolsystems.hiwin.com/configurator/qh-series–-interchangeable-type---block

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 19:53

                  I haven't used them so I can't comment.

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                    tjb1
                    last edited by 26 Feb 2018, 16:33

                    I was able to modify the file in KiCAD and they look to be about $20 from OSHPark but the cost of the carbon arms has kind of put me off this upgrade for now. I got my rails during the Misumi 3D Printing promotion so I'm not sure what brand they are anymore but they are 20x15.

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 26 Feb 2018, 16:44

                      @tjb1:

                      I got my rails during the Misumi 3D Printing promotion so I'm not sure what brand they are anymore but they are 20x15.

                      You could buy long-body carriages to fit the same rails, but you need to be careful when fitting them.

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                        srs5694
                        last edited by 27 Feb 2018, 03:22

                        Before I got my Delta Smart Effector, I was using a modified version of this Thing:

                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:932959

                        As delivered, it has 20x20 screw spacing; but I had to modify it for 20x16 spacing to attach to the sliders I'm using, which I accomplished by editing the "for (y = [-10, 10])" line to "for (y = [-3, 13])". I made a few other tweaks, too.

                        When I got my Smart Effector, I needed to change the ball stud spacing to 55mm, which is done via the rodSeparation and ballStudDistance variables (they're semi-redundant). I'm now using my modified version of this Thing with my Smart Effector, without the carriage pieces provided with the Smart Effector. This seems to work fine – or at least, as well as can be expected. (There's a bit too much play in my carriage, and printing parts like these, rather than using manufactured parts, might be a contributing factor.)

                        In any event, you should be able to make similar changes, just with a tiny change for 20x15 spacing. If you're not comfortable with OpenSCAD, I could do this for you and send you the files; PM me if you want this. Note that I can't promise how whatever I produce would mate with your slider; it might be awkwardly high or low. If you do it yourself, you can adjust the y range in that "for" statement to get it to fit the way you want.

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