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    • kraegarundefined
      kraegar
      last edited by

      Z bed leveling using 3 independent Z-steppers / leadscrews has now been implemented and tested, to actually level the bed in Z. Thanks to David for implementing this in firmware - it's one of the coolest features to use.

      There's some minor refinement to do with the system, but so far it's working very very well.

      Once the final few tweaks have been made, we'll publish the BOM for this - is will be an option to the build, not a requirement. It will require a duex2 or duex5, a third Z tower (using Tr8*4 leadscrews for all 3 z towers) and an alteration to the Z-Yokes, bed carrier, and bottom panel.

      Here are the results from one of my runs of leveling today.

      Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.106 -0.088 0.102, points used 3, deviation before 0.062 after 0.000
      Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.076 -0.003 0.014, points used 3, deviation before 0.034 after 0.000
      Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.036 -0.003 0.015, points used 3, deviation before 0.016 after 0.000
      Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.010 -0.002 0.016, points used 3, deviation before 0.007 after 0.000

      Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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      • biscuitladundefined
        biscuitlad
        last edited by

        So this gives you automated physical levelling before each print, without the software adjustments you typically get via mesh levelling with a probe?

        The question is whether that is actually a better system or not? It's fairly hefty cost upgrade instead of doing it all in software via the probe.

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        • kraegarundefined
          kraegar
          last edited by

          This gives you physical 3 point leveling in place of using thumbscrews, etc to manually level the bed. If your bed isn't actually planar, then a grid probe can make up for that.

          Using thumbscrews and a sheet of paper under the nozzle I'd typically get within about 0.1mm across the 250mm bed, maybe a bit better. Took ~5 minutes, was a bit tedious. I'd only have to do it every few weeks to once a month. For big prints, I'd do a grid probe.

          With this new version, my bed is flat enough, I shouldn't need a grid probe. 3 rounds takes under 2 minutes, and gets me under 0.05 across the bed, down to under 0.01. So it is more accurate than I ever was.

          It's definitely something to weigh out with cost vs. convenience. If you want absolutely smooth first layers every time, though, this will do it.

          Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
          https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            @kraegar:

            Using thumbscrews and a sheet of paper under the nozzle I'd typically get within about 0.1mm across the 250mm bed, maybe a bit better. Took ~5 minutes, was a bit tedious.

            The same code that does the automatic levelling when you have multiple independently-driven Z motors can also tell you how much to adjust the thumbscrews if you don't. See https://duet3d.com/wiki/Using_the_manual_bed_levelling_assistant.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • kraegarundefined
              kraegar
              last edited by

              That's a handy feature, David! Thanks!

              Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
              https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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              • kraegarundefined
                kraegar
                last edited by

                We're going to simplify the bed on the ZL option, get rid of the carriers altogether. Gains another 15mm or so of Z height. New bed design has been turned over to 713maker and will be tested soon.

                Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                • kraegarundefined
                  kraegar
                  last edited by

                  Today we're putting the Z-Leveling (ZL) option of the RailCore II 300ZL out as a "beta" release.

                  There are now 4 options / builds out:
                  RailCore II (250^3 standard build) http://a360.co/2z30VXH
                  RailCore IIZL (250x250x275, with auto Z leveling) http://a360.co/2DoeHFu
                  RailCore II 300 (300^3 standard build) http://a360.co/2BZLzTA
                  RailCore II 300ZL (300x300x325 with auto Z leveling) http://a360.co/2D5OryV

                  The BOM for the 250 verions are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KvlSNYHE20HYjQlURdH50Pn_V7t8TfuNNLnhcvI4Nos/edit?usp=sharing

                  The BOM for the 300 versions are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ePSq-bL4-4rGUdbzkxtMmNftXPYwv5IH47edacloU4E/edit?usp=sharing

                  The assembly guide for the 250 standard version is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wBlwMw_H73dxT0H4OD7fWI7y6bFSvh7_BoBPMTmdTZs/edit?usp=sharing

                  The printed parts for all of them are identical, and still available at the original thingiverse link (with parts from the ZL link on thingiverse as needed)

                  I'll have my RailCore IIZL at MRRF coming up this month if anyone wants to stop by and check it out!

                  Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                  https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for the update, I am really looking forward to MRRF and will be sure to stop by!

                    www.duet3d.com

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                    • kraegarundefined
                      kraegar
                      last edited by

                      I'm psyched you'll be at MRRF, looking forward to chatting!

                      Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                      • kraegarundefined
                        kraegar
                        last edited by

                        Oh, and I'm a local. So if you need any info, etc, hit me up!

                        Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                        • kraegarundefined
                          kraegar
                          last edited by

                          The first revision of the RailCore IIZL assembly guide (250mm, with z-leveling) is done, and available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OoXfw7aXMz0NzAxkdwuChC0FpunLRyKI02_1vJF52hk/edit#

                          I'll have the assembly guides for the 300 & 300ZL soon (probably tomorrow)

                          Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                          https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                          • JohnOCFIIundefined
                            JohnOCFII
                            last edited by

                            Great documentation. I'll be sure to stop by at MRRF.

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                            • kraegarundefined
                              kraegar
                              last edited by

                              Documentation for building the 300mm^3 versions of the RailCore are now available:

                              RailCore II 300: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hC_S6MeUwHMQ6U9vivJ6D1Olx1hfcOVcvL2W0NaXD28/edit?usp=sharing
                              RailCore II 300 ZL: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19FuTYfwqgOkGO8SUScnSuhS_Gx8mJMmXLiPgBfGeJ-s/edit?usp=sharing

                              Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                              https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                T3P3Tony administrators
                                last edited by

                                Excellent! Thanks, look forward to catching up at MRRF

                                www.duet3d.com

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                                • kraegarundefined
                                  kraegar
                                  last edited by

                                  One of my sample prints for MRRF. Testing layer heights. This one is 0.02mm

                                  Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                                  https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                                  • kraegarundefined
                                    kraegar
                                    last edited by

                                    Had a great time at MRRF doing prints like the one above (I printed a couple pins, 0.05 first layer, 0.02 for the rest. 413 layers in a print just over 8mm tall) Really enjoyed meeting Tony from duet3d and getting talk with him. He's extremely nice, and super smart. Had great talks with pretty close to everyone I interacted with.

                                    Here's a sample check of my auto-level after bringing my printer home. This is after intentionally spinning the leadscrews to demo auto-leveling all weekend, carrying the printer around, etc. Who needs mesh leveling? lol 🙂

                                    (I think I could clean it up a bit more if I took some time to clean the bed, double check nothing shifted with the rails, ran another round of leveling, etc, but this will do)

                                    Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                                    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                                    • JohnOCFIIundefined
                                      JohnOCFII
                                      last edited by

                                      Fantastic!

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                                      • mikebridgeundefined
                                        mikebridge
                                        last edited by mikebridge

                                        my google-fu is failing me (i can't find the specs & calculation), how much deflection (droop) do you get on that 12mm linear rail you're using unsupported for the X axis?

                                        edit: actually, it appears you're using it as the Y-axis

                                        375x360x415 CoreXY DuetWifi + Duex5
                                        24v 600w, E3D Chimera, Zesty Nimble CC, BLTouch, X&Y linear rails, dual Z motors

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                                        • jackatom74undefined
                                          jackatom74
                                          last edited by jackatom74

                                          Love your work and I am starting to source parts for one of these now. This will be my third build from the ground up and I am super excited. I have a few questions though.

                                          1. Can you recommend a Misumi part number for the linear rails (300ZL version), I would prefer to go through them even though the ones on ebay are cheaper. ( I believe if I want to use Misumi I will have to mod the printed parts in f360 for a different hole pattern if I am understanding their literature correctly)

                                          2. Somewhere I saw you had options for aluminium cnc versions of some of the parts like the x carriage and I was wondering if you had a source for those parts.

                                          3. How close are you to figuring out how to put a top on it. This is also something I am very interested in figuring out?

                                          Thank You
                                          Jack

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                                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                            T3P3Tony administrators @jackatom74
                                            last edited by

                                            @jackatom74 @kraegar (In case you missed the questions)

                                            www.duet3d.com

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