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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957
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      I was aware that the work was for an OEM shame they haven't announced anything yet wonder if they will try and keep it to themselves or let you guy's have it in your shop as well.

      Good to hear that you have the initial port David very excited to actually give it a go
      I have a Ethernet with Duex5 sitting here just ready for some testing to happen until I can get the CoreXY to a state ready to take the controller (That will have a Smart effector re-purposed for it) Carriage for that is already done

      Keep up the excellent work.

      Doug

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      • DADIYundefined
        DADIY
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        @dc42:

        The basic port to use RTOS is now working. Currently RepRapFirmware is running with just two tasks (one for heating control and one for everything else). The next step is to separate out the networking subsystem into a separate task, followed by GCode processing and movement. I've not yet decided whether to use a task for generating the step pulses or to leave that as an ISR.

        The RTOS I chose is FreeRTOS. It is small and lightweight, ideally suited to embedded applications on ARM Cortex processors. It's coded to high standards - it claims compliance with the MISRA-C coding standard, which is the one used widely for critical C software in automotive, aerospace and other sectors.

        Does this mean we might see the ability to upload a file at the same time as printing?

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          @DADIY:

          @dc42:

          The basic port to use RTOS is now working. Currently RepRapFirmware is running with just two tasks (one for heating control and one for everything else). The next step is to separate out the networking subsystem into a separate task, followed by GCode processing and movement. I've not yet decided whether to use a task for generating the step pulses or to leave that as an ISR.

          The RTOS I chose is FreeRTOS. It is small and lightweight, ideally suited to embedded applications on ARM Cortex processors. It's coded to high standards - it claims compliance with the MISRA-C coding standard, which is the one used widely for critical C software in automotive, aerospace and other sectors.

          Does this mean we might see the ability to upload a file at the same time as printing?

          Yes, I hope to support that. In the longer term more complicated stuff, like simulating newly uploaded files in the background so that an accurate print time is known.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • timcurtis67undefined
            timcurtis67
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            @dc42:

            @DADIY:

            @dc42:

            The basic port to use RTOS is now working. Currently RepRapFirmware is running with just two tasks (one for heating control and one for everything else). The next step is to separate out the networking subsystem into a separate task, followed by GCode processing and movement. I've not yet decided whether to use a task for generating the step pulses or to leave that as an ISR.

            The RTOS I chose is FreeRTOS. It is small and lightweight, ideally suited to embedded applications on ARM Cortex processors. It's coded to high standards - it claims compliance with the MISRA-C coding standard, which is the one used widely for critical C software in automotive, aerospace and other sectors.

            Does this mean we might see the ability to upload a file at the same time as printing?

            Yes, I hope to support that. In the longer term more complicated stuff, like simulating newly uploaded files in the background so that an accurate print time is known.

            Any chance on being able to store/recall variables and use if/then, addition/subtraction logic statements in macros?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              That's planned, but not directly related to RTOS.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
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                Further progress yesterday and today. RepRapFirmware 2.0 alpha now has a thread-safe file system! This paves the way for splitting the code into more tasks. The next work item will be to make PrintMonitor and the interfaces between Network and the rest of the system thread-safe, after that the network subsystem can run as a separate task. That will allow more network stuff to happen in parallel with SD card access, which should speed things up a little.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                • ShadowXundefined
                  ShadowX
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                  Does this mean that eventually we won't have the problem where the system pauses while the hot end is heating when using the PanelDue? The system becomes unresponsive to any commands until the heating is is complete. Any commands issued (ie: homing) during that period would only happen after the hot end heater reaches the temp.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    @ShadowX:

                    Does this mean that eventually we won't have the problem where the system pauses while the hot end is heating when using the PanelDue? The system becomes unresponsive to any commands until the heating is is complete. Any commands issued (ie: homing) during that period would only happen after the hot end heater reaches the temp.

                    The 'system' doesn't pause when the hot end is heating. The command channel that you sent the heating command from won't accept further commands if the heating command is defined to wait until temperature is reached of course, so if you send such a command from PanelDue then of course it will become unresponsive.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • ShadowXundefined
                      ShadowX
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                      Thanks for the clarification.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        I should add that:

                        1. Setting temperatures in PanelDue on the Control and Print pages does not use commands that wait for temperature.

                        2. Even if you do invoke a "set temperature and wait" command from PanelDue (e.g. in one of your own macro files, or by selecting a new tool when there is a set-and-wait command in one of the tool change macro files), the status will continue to update while waiting unless you are using very old main firmware.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          More progress yesterday and today. It turned out that there are a lot of chunks of code that are not thread-safe, especially in the older code - which is understandable, because it was written before using a RTOS was envisaged. Anyway, I've now made all the output channels thread safe, also the tool list and the mechanism used to extract print data from GCode files.

                          I've started including a binary of the latest RTOS build for the Duet WiFi and Ethernet in the github commits. It's at https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/v2-dev/EdgeRelease/Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin. If you like taking risks, follow that link and click Download. I've included a couple of bug fixes in this one too:

                          • Fixed issue with G1 S1 Ennn on delta printers
                          • The FileInfo parser now has a timeout if called from DWC, to prevent the connection being lost when getting info from a large file with a small SD card cluster size. You will no longer get disconnected, but you probably won't get object height or filament required information.

                          It's compatible with version 1.21 of iap4e.bin, DuetWiFiServer.bin and DuetWebControl.zip.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                          • cgcaferundefined
                            cgcafer
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                            Hi David,
                            This morning i updated, after that i can't connect via wifi and fan2 (now it is connected to laser head) it was flashed one in 3-5 second.

                            I was busy so after that i reinstall to regular version (1.12). If you want to diagnostic i can try it again.
                            Thanks
                            Cafer

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
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                              I presume you mean 1.21 not 1.12.

                              What was the problem with Fan2?

                              The RTOS build is working on my delta, except that the first time I booted it up this morning the wifi was off and I had to send M552 S1 from PanelDue to enable it. I have a new build almost ready, but I'll do some tests powering up from cold to see if that problem occurs again.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • cgcaferundefined
                                cgcafer
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                                Yes you are right 1.21
                                laser led turned on and off(like flashing) in 3-5 seconds
                                I was tried M552 S1 but no success.

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                                • cobrettiundefined
                                  cobretti
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                                  Just updated my D-Bot and all good so far. No issues after update with warm and cold restarts and a successful small print.
                                  Edit: Running a Duet Wifi

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                                  • DaveAundefined
                                    DaveA
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                                    Just ran a test print on my Anycubic delta. Printed fine. I did have a problem when I realized I had selected the wrong file to print and attempted to pause/cancel. The pause seemed to hang everything. The bed was still heating but I couldn't kill the print. I needed to power cycle the printer and re-connect to start again. Other than that everything seems good.
                                    This is with a Duet Ethernet.

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
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                                      @DaveA, thanks for that. I'll add pause/resume to the list of things to be tested before the next release.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                      • Danalundefined
                                        Danal
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                                        Downloaded and installed the 2.0(RTOS)alpha1 (2018-04-02b3). Uploaded and installed via the DWC dialogs. Everything worked, and it came back online quite quickly.

                                        This is a Duet WiFi (reads as Duet WiFi 1.02 or later) with nothing attached except power. Home switch configurations are set so that a G28 succeeds (NC, I think). Everything that I can test with nothing attached looks good.

                                        I'll put this duet in a printer over the next few days so I can test more.

                                        Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                        • Danalundefined
                                          Danal
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                                          Vin seems to read a fraction high, as compared to an Eventek benchtop power supply, and a Mastech DVM. They agree to within 0.02.

                                          At 12.0 V on the power supply, 12.02 on the DVM, DWC shows 12.2.
                                          At 24.0 V on the power supply, 24.02 on the DVM, DWC shows 24.4.

                                          This may be entirely within normal tolerance, I did not check it on the "old" firmware.

                                          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
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                                            The tolerance is +/-4.5% but it should typically be within +/-2%.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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