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    • dc42undefined
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      last edited by dc42

      Why not bolt rails to your 4040 extrusions? The rails will be slightly off centre, but apart from a small change in the maximum sideways angle of the arms in one direction (which I don't think will matter at all if you use Haydn's magnetic joints), I don't think it will affect the kinematics - as long as you bolt the rails on the same side of each extrusion, either all to the left, or all to the right.

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators @dc42
        last edited by T3P3Tony

        @dc42 I guess because the motor and idler mounts will then be offset by ~10mm?

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        • dc42undefined
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          @t3p3tony said in Robotdigg Rails:

          @dc42 I guess because the motor and idler mounts will then be offset by ~10mm?

          That's a very good point, I hadn't thought of it!

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          • Mystaundefined
            Mysta
            last edited by Mysta

            Yeah, and given the varying standards/types of the rails it's hard to find one that has 2 sets of screws 20mm apart and also a block with a 20mm square set of holes.

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            • kraegarundefined
              kraegar
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              I've gotten their rails a few times. They're hit and miss. I've gotten some bent. I've gotten some filled with sludge instead of oil. Most have been usable after a tear down and re-build of the carriages, and polishing the rail itself. (Only one was too bent to bother trying to save)

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              • number40fanundefined
                number40fan
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                I could see some spacers made from acrylic and a laser cutter. Would you have the room to move the carriages ~15mm closer to the bed?

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                  • Mystaundefined
                    Mysta @number40fan
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                    @number40fan what do you mean?

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                      number40fan @Mysta
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                      @mysta 0_1523426293444_horriblepic.jpg

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                      • number40fanundefined
                        number40fan
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                        If I was on my other computer I could draw you a better picture, but hopefully you get the idea.

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                        • number40fanundefined
                          number40fan
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                          Can't figure out how to edit my posts, but needing to move the carriages closer will really depend on how your setup is now.

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                          • Mystaundefined
                            Mysta @number40fan
                            last edited by Mysta

                            @number40fan Yeah I get where you're going, though at that point you could almost just use it as a jig to drill holes in the center really. But introducing potential for error either way. I think at that point I'd rather just buy 2040, vertex and new linear rails. The only real alternative is parallel rails which I'm not sure there's anything that would work in this scenario.

                            Btw what are the 'best' linear rails from robotdigg? I know they said they can do custom lengths.

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                            • Dougal1957undefined
                              Dougal1957 @Mysta
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                              @mysta said in Robotdigg Rails:

                              @number40fan Yeah I get where you're going, though at that point you could almost just use it as a jig to drill holes in the center really. But introducing potential for error either way. I think at that point I'd rather just buy 2040, vertex and new linear rails. The only real alternative is parallel rails which I'm not sure there's anything that would work in this scenario.

                              Btw what are the 'best' linear rails from robotdigg? I know they said they can do custom lengths.

                              The std steel ones can vary in Quality like most Chinese Clones but all the Stainless ones that I know about no-one has said there bad!

                              Such as these MGN12-1500 ones in SUS440C

                              They may even do double width ones so you could alway ask Derek what he can do for you?

                              Doug

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                              • Mystaundefined
                                Mysta @Dougal1957
                                last edited by

                                @dougal1957 Thanks I'll ask. I do like the idea of a 4040 with rails. And my current setup prob has a little more weight on the carriage than I'd like.

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                                • number40fanundefined
                                  number40fan @Mysta
                                  last edited by number40fan

                                  Whatever you used to make the spacers, you would have a little wiggle room, just like you would with T-nuts in an aluminum extrusion. The linear rail would be stiff enough to help align everything vertically if you loosely assembled the spacers first.

                                  Even with the best made extrusions, you are not guaranteed to not have a slight bend/twist in them.

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                                  • DADIYundefined
                                    DADIY @Mysta
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                                    @mysta Will be interesting to see if they have them in stock, every time Ive ordered from them they've not had them, and other sellers on Ali took the order and then asked for more money, which I refused.

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                                    • Mystaundefined
                                      Mysta @DADIY
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                                      @dadiy For what, the 440C?

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                                      • DADIYundefined
                                        DADIY @Mysta
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                                        @mysta they didn't have anything in the 1.5m lengths even though they were advertised, hopefully that's changed now, please let us know if you go for it.

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                                        • Mystaundefined
                                          Mysta
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                                          Alright I'll give it a shot,t hey usually don't reply until like 3am so I'll see. If they do I'll prob get like 1350 or somewhere around there as I won't need the full length with my 500mm arms.

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                                          • Danalundefined
                                            Danal @Mysta
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                                            @mysta said in Robotdigg Rails:

                                            Alright I'll give it a shot,t hey usually don't reply until like 3am so I'll see. If they do I'll prob get like 1350 or somewhere around there as I won't need the full length with my 500mm arms.

                                            Give this a try to see what length you want:

                                            http://danalspub.com/DKcalc/

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