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    • briangilbertundefined
      briangilbert
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      @dc42 or anyone else with more experience than me..

      Would there be any obvious issues using a PT1000 with a short cable (~10cm) going to a plug/socket just above effector, and then wire back down to the Duet?

      Anything special need to be taken into account for the wire used for the run back to the Duet (AWG rating, resistance, etc)?

      Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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      • MSquaredundefined
        MSquared @briangilbert
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        @briangilbert I believe in the past that @dc42 and others have recommended using 4 wires, and twisted pairs to help avoid noise from the rest of the system affecting the accuracy of the sensor.

        I haven't tested it yet but am in the process of rebuilding my printer and use exactly that strategy. That being said, I was using 2 wires until this rebuild and it was working just fine, probably due to the fact that the PT1000 wire did not run near anything that would make a lot of noise (steppers, etc...).

        -M

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        • briangilbertundefined
          briangilbert
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          @MSquared I think thats more for PT100 sensors..

          Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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          • MSquaredundefined
            MSquared @briangilbert
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            @briangilbert Touche'. Well in that case I probably can't tell you anything you don't already know. If it were me I would probably just use one of the twisted pairs I have lying around from the dismantling of an ethernet cable. The resistance of copper wire at the length we would be talking about would be negligible, it won't be carrying any meaningful current and while not strictly required the twist would give it a little extra protection from interference.

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            • DjDemonDundefined
              DjDemonD
              last edited by DjDemonD

              I havent tried yet putting a few joins in a pt1000 wire to see what effect it has. Be quite worth trying though. Ours come with 2m cables.

              Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
              www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
              PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @DjDemonD
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                For a PT100 sensor, 1 ohm of resistance in the cable and connectors will increase the temperature reading by 2.5C. For a PT1000 it would be 0.25C. So cables and connectors won't have much effect with a PT1000.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • briangilbertundefined
                  briangilbert @dc42
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                  @dc42 thanks, I was hoping this would be the case.

                  Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                  • c310undefined
                    c310
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                    @dc42 how do we config DuetWiFi for PT1000 than? there is nothing in WiKi, just pt100... thanks!

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                    • DjDemonDundefined
                      DjDemonD
                      last edited by DjDemonD

                      Although it is not necessarily "proper" if you find there is an offset in the temperature, or as I do prefer to offset the temp reading to show the bed surface temperature then change the series resistor value by a small amount from the console, then update config.g.

                      I have got 3 connected to my cylinder delta using the following config

                      M305 P0 X500 R4700  			; heater 0 uses a PT1000 connected to thermistor channel 0 which has a 4.7K series resistor
                      M305 P1 X501 R4700  			; heater 1 uses a PT1000 connected to thermistor channel 1 which has a 4.7K series resistor
                      M305 P2 X502 R4700  			; heater 2 uses a PT1000 connected to thermistor channel 2 which has a 4.7K series resistor

                      Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                      www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                      PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                      • c310undefined
                        c310
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                        @djdemond said in PT1000 cable length, connector, and wire type:

                        3 connected to my delta cylinder....
                        connected to thermistor channel 0.... channel 1 .... channel 2

                        does it mean you have simmultanius 3 readings from the same head AND you have 2 PT100 boards?

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                        • DjDemonDundefined
                          DjDemonD
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                          No I have 3 PT1000 sensors. One for Bed, one for hotend and one for chamber. No daughterboards at all. PT1000 can be connected directly. See my sig.

                          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @c310
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                            @c310 said in PT1000 cable length, connector, and wire type:

                            @dc42 how do we config DuetWiFi for PT1000 than? there is nothing in WiKi, just pt100... thanks!

                            Yes there is, https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_thermistors_or_PT1000_temperature_sensors.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • c310undefined
                              c310
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                              i missed it. thanks!

                              Use the M305 command as for a thermistor, but add parameter X500+n where N is the channel number. Only the R, H and L parameters are significant. Example:

                              M305 P1 X501 R4700 ; heater 1 uses a PT1000 connected to thermistor channel 1 which has a 4.7K series resistor

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