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Precision Piezo z probes guide for duet users reference

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    burtoogle
    last edited by 18 Apr 2018, 17:08

    Hi @DjDemonD ,

    I have recently installed an Orion on my Kossel XL and would like to make a modified version of the groovemount part. Is it possible to obtain the STL for that please? Even better would be an scad file if that's available.

    Thanks,

    Mark

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      Moriquendi
      last edited by 18 Apr 2018, 19:27

      Hi Mark,

      STLs can be found here, let me know if you need anything else.

      Idris

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        PlasticMetal
        last edited by 26 Apr 2018, 00:34

        Is anyone alive at Precision? I replied on the 17th to an email from Idris for troubleshooting, and haven't heard anything since. I replied again on the 20th and yesterday, and still no word.

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          DjDemonD
          last edited by 26 Apr 2018, 07:42

          Hi I'll give Idris a nudge. Sorry you haven't heard from us since then.

          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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            Moriquendi @PlasticMetal
            last edited by 26 Apr 2018, 07:48

            @plasticmetal What email address did you use? I can't find any emails I've not responded to. Failing that try sending a message through the website.

            Idris

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              PlasticMetal
              last edited by 26 Apr 2018, 09:47

              Thanks to both of you for replying. I don't see a way to PM through this forum, so I'll reply here.

              Following my question earlier in this thread, I initiated contact through your website, and received a reply from Idris on the 17th. This was from reply at crm . wix .com. I replied through that email, which had a "reply to" field of eaQ0....TtA at the same domain.

              All three of my reply attempts have been to that same email. I've checked the spam inbox, and there aren't any messages there (and as the first email came through fine, I wouldn't expect later ones to get flagged).

              Thanks for trying to get this resolved.

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                Moriquendi
                last edited by 26 Apr 2018, 14:00

                I suspect something has gone wrong with the reply address somewhere. If you'd like to send an email to precisionpiezo at yahoo dot com hopefully that'll come straight through.

                Idris

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                  PlasticMetal
                  last edited by 26 Apr 2018, 20:05

                  Thanks, just sent via yahoo.

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                    AlexLin
                    last edited by 28 Apr 2018, 11:48

                    Hi
                    I have installed the Orion piezo and it works . When performing G29, the first 6 point are probed, then it will always trigger before probing at 1 specific point on the bed (left,back, point number 7)....I think this has to do with some more movement due to the cable at that point...is it possible to pause a bit in G29 before probing, to let it stabilize...couldn't find a parameter for that. When doing G30 at the problem x,y point it always probes correctly

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                      AlexLin
                      last edited by 28 Apr 2018, 12:02

                      BTW I have this in config.g
                      M558 P5 I1 R0.9 F120 X0 Y0 Z1 T3000¨ ;Piezo
                      G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P100 ;piezo

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                        AlexLin
                        last edited by 28 Apr 2018, 12:37

                        It seem sthat M558 R0.9 (before 0.4) works
                        Description of M558 is confusing
                        "Z probe recovery time after triggering, default zero " I think it means before probing not after triggering. Or?

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                          DjDemonD
                          last edited by 28 Apr 2018, 19:19

                          So R is a pause before probing. Use around 0.4 seconds, some points on the bed might false trigger if your bowden cable goes tight.

                          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                            xepherys
                            last edited by 7 Jun 2018, 17:51

                            I have an Orion on a new build (not in service yet). I'm using this in config.g:

                            ;Precision Piezo Orion
                            M558 P8 I1 H5 R0.5 F150
                            G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.05 P600

                            Last night I finally got the Orion wired and was able to home Z with it several times... all was well. This afternoon I came back to it, and it crashed the bed (not bad, I have the speed fairly slow and was able to kill it quickly). I discovered that the blue LED (trigger) is constantly lit. What can cause this?

                            Thanks!

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                              DjDemonD
                              last edited by 7 Jun 2018, 19:53

                              I would check the calibration potentiometer. Adjust it as per the documentation. It is a good idea to make this adjustment, at the temperatures you would normally use when probing the bed. So if thats with heaters off, calibrate with heaters off and vice versa. Piezos do change sensitivity when heated or cooled, its a very sensitive instrument.

                              Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                              www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                              PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                                ajcraig99
                                last edited by 28 Jul 2018, 22:09

                                I am having trouble getting my new peizo to trigger using G30, it works when I run homez.g but when I run G30 it just crashes into the bed.

                                Is the issue with my M558 line?

                                ; homez.g
                                ; called to home the Z axis
                                ;
                                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat Jul 21 2018 13:51:16 GMT+1200 (New Zealand Standard 
                                Time)
                                G91               ; relative positioning
                                G1 Z5 F6000 S2    ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G1 S1 Z-295 F1800 ; move Z down until the switch triggers
                                G92 Z2.5          ; set Z position to trigger height
                                
                                ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                                ;G91              ; relative positioning
                                ;G1 Z5 F100 S2    ; lift Z relative to current position
                                ;G90              ; absolute positioning
                                

                                From config.g

                                ; Z-Probe
                                ;M558 P0 H5 F420 T6000             ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                                
                                G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P600               ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                M557 X15:305 Y15:285 S20          ; Define mesh grid
                                M558 P8 H5 I1 R0.4 F1800 X0 Y0 Z0
                                
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                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by T3P3Tony 29 Jul 2018, 05:17

                                  See item #1 in the FAQ page on the Duet3d wiki.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    Agniusm
                                    last edited by Agniusm 9 Oct 2018, 11:58 10 Sept 2018, 07:31

                                    I have a concept i would like to test including piezo. I have bought a set for my extruder assembly but had difficulties mounting it and i scrapped that idea and using prusas induction probe ever since. Resolution is very good and i am happy with it. That being said i have thought of a concept that i would like to validate with you clever people.
                                    i have large cartesian printer based on CR10S4 frame. As i have piezo "in stock" i would like to try and use it as tool offset. Mainly the idea came from thinking about e3d tool changer.
                                    I want to mount piezo disc on the frame beside the bed. i will know piezo Z offset from the bed which will be constant. If i can have duet and piezo cooperate so the Gcode would move my nozzle off the bed where piezo disc is located and touch it to record Z offset then go about the routine of mesh mapping with induction probe.
                                    This would eliminate the need to fiddle with Z offset all together, when you change the nozzle, clean a clog or do maintenance.
                                    Any outside pointers on this?
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                                      Moriquendi
                                      last edited by 14 Sept 2018, 15:08

                                      I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work, others are working on a similar idea using the new M585 command.

                                      Idris

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                                        Agniusm @Moriquendi
                                        last edited by 17 Sept 2018, 04:19

                                        @moriquendi said in Precision Piezo z probes guide for duet users reference:

                                        I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work, others are working on a similar idea using the new M585 command.

                                        Idris

                                        Can you point me to those workings?

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                                          Moriquendi @Agniusm
                                          last edited by 17 Sept 2018, 08:21

                                          @agniusm I can't I'm afraid, he's not published it yet so it's not on a forum. No doubt when it's ready I'll be able to link to it.

                                          Idris

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