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    samlogan87
    last edited by samlogan87 13 Aug 2018, 22:13

    Hi there everyone,

    I am having issues with the core xy printer that I am building. I am running 3x Z axis Nema 23 motors that are working fine, but the X and Y axis are not. I have tried switching the motors to the Z drivers and they work. Z axis ones do not work on drivers 0 and 1. I have a DueX2 and have put the x and y motors on there and it still does not work. I am thinking it could be something to do with the config. Can someone cast their eye over it and see if they can see anything.

    ; General preferences

    G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
    M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode
    ;M912 P0 S# CPU Temp

    ; Network

    M550 PSam's Printer ; Set machine name
    M552 P192.168.1.40 S1 ; Enable network
    M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

    ; Drives

    M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards X Axis
    M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes forwards Y Axis
    M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes forwards Z Axis 1
    M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards Z Axis 2
    M569 P4 S0 ; Drive 4 goes forwards Z Axis 3
    M569 P5 S1 ; Drive 5 goes forwards Extruder

    ; Motor remapping for dual Z

    M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3:4 U3 V4 E5 P6 ; Driver 0 For X, 1 for Y, Z=2:3:4 U3 V4, Extruder 5
    M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16:16 U16 V16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
    M92 X80 Y80 Z400:400:400 U400 V400 E420 ; Set steps per mm
    M566 X150 Y150 Z12:12:12 U12 V12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X150 Y150 Z180:180:180 U180 V180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X250 Y250 Z250:250:250 U250 V250 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X850 Y850 Z1850:1850:1850 U1850 V1850 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

    ; Axis Limits

    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 U0 V0 S1 ; Set axis minima
    M208 X400 Y400 Z420 U420 V420 S0 ; Set axis maxima
    M671 X256.6:-53.6:100 Y239.10:239.1:65.50 S3 ; Define the X and Y coordinates of the leadscrews. Motor order: FR (1), FL (2), RC (3).Snn Maximum correction in mm to apply to each leadscrew (optional, default 1.0)

    ; Endstops

    M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; X home to min. Y home to max. Normally Closed limit switches.
    M307 H5 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable the 4th Heater to free up PWM channel 2 on the Duex board for BL TOUCH.
    M574 Z1 S2 ; Define Z to use Probe. Home to Min
    M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F120 T6000 ; MUST CHANGE H=== TO SUIT BEFORE RUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    G31 X0 Y0 Z1.5 P25 ; MUST CHANGE X AND Y OFFSET BEFORE RUNNING AND THEN TUNE Z!!!!!!!!!!!!11
    M581 E0 S1 T1 C0 ; invoke trigger 2 when a rising edge is detected on the E1 or E2 endstop input

    ; Define mesh grid
    M557 X0:400 Y0:400 S20

    ; Heaters

    M140 H1 ; Remap heated bed to heater 1
    M305 P0 X200 ; Set PT100 for Hot End
    M143 H0 S300 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 300C
    M307 H0 A350 C139 D5.5 B0 ; set model parameters for heater 0 and use PID mode
    M305 P1 X201 ; Set PT100 Channel 2 to Heat Bed
    M143 H1 S130 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 130C
    M307 H0 A249.7 C1079.9 D20.0 S1.00 V24.3 B0 ; set model parameters for heater 1 and use PID mode gain 249.7, time constant 1079.9, dead time 20.0,

    ; Fans

    M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
    M106 P1 H0 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

    ; Tools

    M563 P0 D0 H0 S"Extruder" ; Define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

    ; Automatic power saving

    M911 S10 R11 P"
    M913 X0 Y0
    G91
    M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

    Regards,
    Sam

    Custom Core-XY

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 13 Aug 2018, 23:47

      If you send M584 with no parameters in the console what do you get back?

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        samlogan87
        last edited by 13 Aug 2018, 23:52

        Hi there,

        This is what I get:

        11:51:28 AM M584
        Driver assignments: X0 Y1 Z2:3:4 U3 V4 E5, 5 axes visible

        Regards,
        Sam

        Custom Core-XY

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 00:03

          Can you test without your additional axis defined?

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            samlogan87
            last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 00:31

            Yeah just tried it and nothing.

            Custom Core-XY

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              samlogan87
              last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 00:44

              this is what I have in there

              M584 X3 Y4 Z2 P3 ; Driver 0 For X, 1 for Y, Z=2:3:4 U3 V4, Extruder 5 :0:1 U3 V4 E5
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation :16:16 U16 V16
              M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E420 ; Set steps per mm :400:400 U400 V400
              M566 X150 Y150 Z12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) :12:12 U12 V12
              M203 X150 Y150 Z180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min) :180:180 U180 V180
              M201 X250 Y250 Z250 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2) :250:250 U250 V250
              M906 X850 Y850 Z1850 E800 I50 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent :1850:1850 U1850 V1850
              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

              Does it look correct?

              Custom Core-XY

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                samlogan87
                last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 04:59

                I have done some more troubleshooting. When I remap the extruder to one of the x and y drivers it works as it should. I can use the extrude and retract buttons to make the x and y axis to move. When I remap it back, I can not get it to home. The Z axis moves as it should, but the x or y won't move

                Custom Core-XY

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 05:48

                  How are you trying to move the motors?

                  If you send this does the motor move?

                  G91
                  G1 S2 X10 F3000

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                    samlogan87
                    last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 07:09

                    Currently I have just been trying to get it to home the axis. I have the homing g code files from the configurator and when I run it, the Z axis shifts up (down in my case being a corexy) and then nothing for the x and y until I push the end stops in. Once I do this, the z axis then moves again. It says that the axis have homed and when I try and shift it, nothing happens.

                    I will give that a try and let you know.

                    Custom Core-XY

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                      samlogan87
                      last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 07:13

                      I gave that a go and it doesn't move.

                      Custom Core-XY

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                        dc42 administrators @samlogan87
                        last edited by dc42 14 Aug 2018, 07:41

                        @samlogan87 said in X and Y motors not moving:

                        this is what I have in there

                        M584 X3 Y4 Z2 P3 ; Driver 0 For X, 1 for Y, Z=2:3:4 U3 V4, Extruder 5 :0:1 U3 V4 E5
                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation :16:16 U16 V16
                        M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E420 ; Set steps per mm :400:400 U400 V400
                        M566 X150 Y150 Z12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) :12:12 U12 V12
                        M203 X150 Y150 Z180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min) :180:180 U180 V180
                        M201 X250 Y250 Z250 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2) :250:250 U250 V250
                        M906 X850 Y850 Z1850 E800 I50 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent :1850:1850 U1850 V1850
                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                        Does it look correct?

                        1. Please clarify: do you have X and Y mapped to drivers 3 and 4 as here, or mapped to drivers 0 and 1 as in the config.g file you listed in your first post?

                        2. You can send following commands to test the X motor individually:

                        G91 ; relative movement
                        G1 S2 X10 F1000 ; move the X motor forward 10mm
                        G1 S2 X-10 F1000 ; move the X motor back 10mm

                        Similarly for the Y motor.

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                          samlogan87
                          last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 07:56

                          @dc42 said in X and Y motors not moving:

                          G1 S2 X-10 F1000

                          Hi there,

                          Yes sorry it is as the above configuration. I was just making sure in that bit, that it was not a motor issue by mapping it to other drivers. Turns out the motors are fine.

                          I tried that and nothing. They do not move at all.

                          I am very confused as they turn when I set them up as extruders and use the retract button on the UI

                          Custom Core-XY

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                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 07:59

                            Just on a lark, can you delete the entire line and type it out again from scratch?

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                              samlogan87
                              last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 08:01

                              Yeap I did that.

                              G1 S2 X100 F1000 and it did not move at all

                              Custom Core-XY

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                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 08:02

                                Sorry, I meant the M584 command

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                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 08:03

                                  Also, are you sure the x and y steps per mm are 80?
                                  You said when you switched them to be extruders they worked but the extruder steps are 400.

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                                    samlogan87
                                    last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 08:08

                                    Sorry I typed M584 and got

                                    M584
                                    Driver assignments: X0 Y1 Z2:3:4 U3 V4 E5, 5 axes visible

                                    I tried changing the steps per mm to 800 and it just sits there and hums

                                    Custom Core-XY

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                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 08:12

                                      If you replace your m584 command in config.g with just M584 X0 Y1 and nothing else do they work then?

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                                        samlogan87
                                        last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 08:17

                                        Tried that and still nothing. Sounds like it wants to move but it doesn't do anything unfortunately

                                        Custom Core-XY

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                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 08:23

                                          Can you send M906 and verify that the motor currents are being accepted?

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