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    • dc42undefined
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      last edited by

      Why not make the extrusion speed the speed at which the clay comes out of the nozzle, instead of the speed at which the syringe moves? Alternatively, use volumetric extrusion. Either way, you will have much larger E values, which will avoid the problem.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      • frafaundefined
        frafa
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        ok, humm Simplify3D does not support volumetric extrusion !
        I test reduce E steps/mm ...

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        • frafaundefined
          frafa
          last edited by frafa

          hi David,

          Full step is possible on Duetwifi ?
          i test M350 E1 I0
          Console return : M350: Drive E8 does not support 1x microstepping ...

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          • dc42undefined
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            @frafa, if you use M584 to specify how many extruders you have, instead of letting the firmware assume that all possible additional drivers are extruders, then you won't get that message.

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            • frafaundefined
              frafa
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              one extruder on P3
              ==> M569 P3 S0
              please help me ... M584 E????
              just send or on config.g ?

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              • dc42undefined
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                @frafa said in How to reduce the speed of extrusion:

                ????

                M584 E3

                Send it to test it, put it in config.g to make it permanent.

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                • frafaundefined
                  frafa
                  last edited by frafa

                  Thank's 🙂

                  Same error on console: M350: Drive E8 does not support 1x microstepping

                  ok on 16 microstep
                  but dont works on 1x motor vibrate and dont turn...
                  Motor: Nema 8 reduct 19:1
                  leadscrew - M6 metric (1mm per rotation)

                  ok (16 microstep)
                  M92 ... E60800 ;
                  M350 E16 I0 ;
                  M584 E3;

                  ko (full step)
                  M92 ... E3200 ;
                  M350 E1 I0 ;
                  M584 E3;

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                  Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                  Firmware Version: 1.21RC3 (2018-02-28 build 4)
                  WiFi Server Version: 1.21RC4(08b3)
                  Web Interface Version: 1.21-RC4

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                  • dc42undefined
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                    The M584 E3 command must come before the M350 E1 I0.

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                    • frafaundefined
                      frafa
                      last edited by frafa

                      ok
                      M584 E3 before M350
                      test 16x ok
                      1x 2x 4x 8x ko, motor vibrate, and do not turn
                      no error on console ...

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @frafa
                        last edited by dc42

                        @frafa said in How to reduce the speed of extrusion:

                        ok
                        M584 E3 before M350
                        test 16x ok
                        1x 2x 4x 8x ko, motor vibrate, and do not turn
                        no error on console ...

                        That sounds like you have the steps/mm set too high at x8 and below, or the acceleration (M201) set too high. Please confirm that you still have the M92 command before the M350 command, so that the steps/mm will be adjusted automatically.

                        I still think that it would be much better to make your steps/mm be the steps per mm extrusion from the nozzle, not the steps per mm movement of the plunger.

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                        • frafaundefined
                          frafa
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                          Humm....

                          I tested a lot of steps by decreasing number of steps per mm without success
                          motor vibrates and does not turn
                          I only get there in 16x ...

                          order used:

                          M92 ... E3200 ;
                          M566 ... E30 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) (jerk)
                          M203 ... E60 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                          M201 ... E5 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                          M906 ... E550 I60 ;
                          M584 E3; assign extrude on motor (P3)
                          M350 E1 I0 ;

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                          • dc42undefined
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                            On my list to test.

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                            • frafaundefined
                              frafa
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                              Ok thanks 🙂

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                              • dc42undefined
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                                I'm sorry, I can't reproduce this issue. I used the settings you posted above, then sent G1 E1 first with x16 microstepping. Then I sent M350 to change the microstepping to 8, then 2, then 1 and repeated the G1 E1 command in each case. The motor moved the same amount every time, but was much noisier with lower microstepping.

                                I am using the candidate firmware build for 2.02RC4, but I don't think there have been any changes that would account for the problem going away. But I suggest you try upgrading to 2.02RC4 anyway when I release it.

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