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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      How many walls are you using? Adding another wall would be my suggestion. With a 0.4 nozzle I usually use 3.

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      • wilrikerundefined
        wilriker @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux With most of the settings I go by Cura's defaults. In case of perimeter count it is 2. I only increase this for parts that need additional strengths e.g. to directly tap screws into the plastic.
        I still have a setting to test called "Connect infill lines". It basically is an additional inner perimeter. I guess this will solve the issue finally.

        Manuel
        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
        My Tool Collection

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @wilriker
          last edited by

          @wilriker Connect infill lines isn't quite the same as an extra full perimeter. It does the same thing with infill that slic3r does by default. A full perimeter is a continuous lines from start to finish, connected infill lines are sporadic.

          I use 25% for infill overlap and don't get such pronounced infill pattern. What is your infill wipe distance?

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          • wilrikerundefined
            wilriker @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @phaedrux Again the default of 0.1125mm.

            Manuel
            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
            My Tool Collection

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by Phaedrux

              2 perimeters is rather thin, especially on curved surfaces like the hull. I'd bet that adding a third perimeter will take care of it.

              In my opinion the Cura defaults are some of the worst defaults. They are tuned for an ultimaker and don't always translate well to other styles of printer. And so many of the useful settings are hidden by default. That's not to say I dislike Cura, but it definitely takes a lot more fiddling.

              In your case, with an I3 style printer, I think you'd probably get really excellent results using Slic3r PE and one of the prusa profiles for the MK2.

              https://github.com/prusa3d/Slic3r-settings/tree/master/old/Slic3r settings MK2S MK2MM and MK3

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              • OBELIKSundefined
                OBELIKS
                last edited by

                Just to test, try this one:0_1536176181631_3DBenchy_0.2mm_PLA_MK2S.gcode

                P3Steel Toolson mk2 - Duet 2 WiFi --> RatRig V-Core with Duet WiFi 1.03
                Original Prusa i3 MK3S

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                • wilrikerundefined
                  wilriker @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux I am looking into other slicers every once in awhile but at least until now always returned to Cura. Maybe because it was what I started with.

                  I will try to slice and print a Benchy also with Slic3r and maybe also ideaMaker. Will see. I will just create an army of Benchies I can use to conquer the world. 😁

                  Manuel
                  Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                  with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                  My Tool Collection

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                  • wilrikerundefined
                    wilriker @OBELIKS
                    last edited by

                    @obeliks Is it sliced with (0, 0) at bed center?

                    Manuel
                    Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                    with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                    My Tool Collection

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                    • OBELIKSundefined
                      OBELIKS
                      last edited by

                      You have it set at center now?
                      It's at 0,0

                      P3Steel Toolson mk2 - Duet 2 WiFi --> RatRig V-Core with Duet WiFi 1.03
                      Original Prusa i3 MK3S

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                      • wilrikerundefined
                        wilriker @OBELIKS
                        last edited by wilriker

                        @obeliks Yes, I changed it with PA tuning. 😉

                        I looked into the GCODE with an editor and a lot of movements are outside my printable area. So I guess this was sliced with (0, 0) at front left.

                        Also I doubt that my motors could handle the speeds given in there. 144mm/s is not possible - while proof-reading this sentence I just thought "actually I never tried but only used EMF Calculator values to set the limits". Usually I wouldn't care as it is capped by my settings but these are overwritten at the start of the file. 😂
                        I won't print this before Friday anyway as tomorrow is something else already on the list. So enough time to setup Slic3r and slice it myself.

                        Also it does not use FW retract and the retractions in there are way too short for my MK8.

                        Manuel
                        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                        My Tool Collection

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                        • OBELIKSundefined
                          OBELIKS
                          last edited by

                          I recommend you start with MK2 profile and work from that.
                          Even if you just change the dimensions of print volume and remove the acceleration and other things it should work.

                          P3Steel Toolson mk2 - Duet 2 WiFi --> RatRig V-Core with Duet WiFi 1.03
                          Original Prusa i3 MK3S

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                          • wilrikerundefined
                            wilriker @OBELIKS
                            last edited by

                            @obeliks Thanks. Currently fighting through all of the options. 🙂 ⚔

                            Manuel
                            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                            My Tool Collection

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                            • wilrikerundefined
                              wilriker
                              last edited by wilriker

                              OK, some interesting discoveries with Slic3r PE so far.

                              1. I started with MK2 profile but ditched it and started with a completely fresh profile based on a custom printer. Also I left nearly all of the settings at their defaults as this will compare better to how I use Cura
                              2. The Gcode file for the Benchy is considerably smaller, i.e. nearly 40% smaller
                              3. It uses about 70cm more filament for the Benchy than Cura - this is probably due to larger line width and 3 perimeters
                              4. With all speeds set to default (except travel speed that I reduced to match my printers current set limit) it will take 1:46h compared to 1:28h when sliced with Cura (both values taken from Duet simulation result)
                              5. Slic3r said it would take 1:25h but I have not found where to set maximum speeds for axes, accelerations and jerk values. It can be entered in the advanced acceleration control fields if they are enabled by using a Prusa profile but not for custom profiles. But I don't want it to control the acceleration but only take it into account when calculating print time. Before the "Printer Settings" plugin existed these values had to be entered in configuration files with an external editor. Is there something similar for Slic3r possible? Just found it right after posting here.
                              6. Modifier meshes are a bit more hidden than in Cura but have the nice feature of adding generic shapes (cubes, cylinders, etc.) where I had to create those in advance for Cura
                              7. I like that Slic3r has Gyroid infill
                              8. I don't like the UI - it looks like from the 90s 😂

                              Manuel
                              Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                              with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                              My Tool Collection

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                              • whosrdaddyundefined
                                whosrdaddy
                                last edited by

                                @wilriker said in My custom Cartesian:

                                I don't like the UI - it looks like from the 90s

                                But at least it's fast! 😸 😸

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                                • wilrikerundefined
                                  wilriker @whosrdaddy
                                  last edited by

                                  @whosrdaddy That's right.

                                  OK, now I found where to set the values for speed, accel, jerk etc. but the default values contain two values and I cannot find which one stands for what. Any input on this, anyone?

                                  Manuel
                                  Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                  with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                  My Tool Collection

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                                  • whosrdaddyundefined
                                    whosrdaddy
                                    last edited by

                                    what do you mean with 2 values?

                                    I have these for my i3 clone:

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                                    • deckingmanundefined
                                      deckingman @wilriker
                                      last edited by

                                      @wilriker said in My custom Cartesian:

                                      @whosrdaddy That's right.

                                      OK, now I found where to set the values for speed, accel, jerk etc. but the default values contain two values and I cannot find which one stands for what. Any input on this, anyone?

                                      What @whosrdaddy said. Also, if you let the mouse hover one of the input boxes, you'll get a little pop-up that explains what it does.

                                      Ian
                                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
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                                      • wilrikerundefined
                                        wilriker @whosrdaddy
                                        last edited by

                                        @whosrdaddy I mean the <printer profile name>.ini file where all the settings are persisted. There will be lines

                                        machine_max_acceleration_e = 10000,5000
                                        machine_max_acceleration_extruding = 1500,1250
                                        machine_max_acceleration_retracting = 1500,1250
                                        machine_max_acceleration_x = 9000,1000
                                        machine_max_acceleration_y = 9000,1000
                                        machine_max_acceleration_z = 500,200
                                        machine_max_feedrate_e = 120,120
                                        machine_max_feedrate_x = 500,200
                                        machine_max_feedrate_y = 500,200
                                        machine_max_feedrate_z = 12,12
                                        machine_max_jerk_e = 2.5,2.5
                                        machine_max_jerk_x = 10,10
                                        machine_max_jerk_y = 10,10
                                        machine_max_jerk_z = 0.2,0.4
                                        machine_min_extruding_rate = 0,0
                                        machine_min_travel_rate = 0,0
                                        

                                        where every property has two values. After downloading and searching the source code I found out that the second value is for "silent mode printing".

                                        Manuel
                                        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                        My Tool Collection

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                                        • whosrdaddyundefined
                                          whosrdaddy @wilriker
                                          last edited by

                                          @wilriker Oh I see now 🙂
                                          I never bother with the ini files, the gui is easy enough to tweak the settings.
                                          I am not even sure if these ini settings are used when choosing a firmware other than Marlin...

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                                          • wilrikerundefined
                                            wilriker @whosrdaddy
                                            last edited by wilriker

                                            @whosrdaddy AFAICT from the source code they are used for the print time estimation. Though I have to look deeper into it because changing it to my actual values set in config.g did not change the estimated print time at all. I must have missed some setting.

                                            Also there is no GUI part where I can set acceleration, max feedrate and jerk settings. At least I have not found it.

                                            EDIT: It did not change the estimates as the settings in the config file will only be applied if Gcode flavor is Marlin. Otherwise they use the hardcoded defaults. 🤦

                                            Manuel
                                            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                            My Tool Collection

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