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Heater faults with numerous different heaters and thermistors

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    Foden @Foden
    last edited by 21 Oct 2018, 04:23

    @foden last one tonight. Fan at 100% with hot end rotated 90%. I think he issue was fan related but not quite what we thought. Will test tomorrow with the same setup i have now, but think the fan was firing up too fast for the thermister/heater to cope. As i have the fan running now at 100% and the temp is holding perfectly

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 21 Oct 2018, 04:36

      How did you have the fan set when running a PID tune?

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        Foden @Phaedrux
        last edited by 21 Oct 2018, 14:53

        @phaedrux I think the fans where off, hot end and bed, when i was running autotune, which i see, now, would be another contributing factor

        Will re-run autotine with fan on and see what happens

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          Foden @Foden
          last edited by 21 Oct 2018, 16:58

          @foden Update - bed fan would be off when i was running the hot end autotune. Hot end fan comes on automatically at 45C

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            Foden @Foden
            last edited by 22 Oct 2018, 03:19

            @foden Sooo, when previously running the H/E autotune without the bed fan i got a heater too powerful and dropped the power value. After Phedrux query i re-ran the autotune with the fan at 85% and on full power I did not get the over power warning. I had no idea the bed fan would have such an impact on the H/E. I don't have that issue with my Maker Select IIIP (almost completely rebuilt running on RAMPS 1.4)

            I now need to design a shorter, or stronger fan duct that won't droop and make contact with the print. Trying a very short one just for now

            Thanks again for all that read my ramblings and helped out!

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 22 Oct 2018, 03:48

              If you can, print your duct in ASA or polycarbonate. Quite a bit more heat resistant.

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                Foden @Phaedrux
                last edited by 23 Oct 2018, 00:11

                @phaedrux Thanks Phaedrux, haven't printed with either of those - will take a look

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @Foden
                  last edited by 23 Oct 2018, 00:21

                  @foden ASA is close to ABS. Polycarbonate is another beast altogether.

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                    Foden @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 23 Oct 2018, 04:07

                    @phaedrux As seems to be the way with all things 3d, find a fix for one issue and another pops-up. Just noticed my x carriage has a lovely crack in it :o(

                    Have to reprint and dismantle to get it replaced - sigh - oh well.....

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 23 Oct 2018, 04:11

                      Building a 3D printer is a never ending gift of projects.

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                        Foden @Phaedrux
                        last edited by 24 Oct 2018, 03:49

                        @phaedrux LMAO - so true, so true my friend. I've learnt so many skills and other things I didn't know I needed to have that I can't believe I got this far in life without them 😎

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                          Foden
                          last edited by 28 Oct 2018, 16:35

                          Thanks again everyone, my DuetWifi and HEVO are back in sync. Have put back my BLTouch to replace the Orion as it was ticking me off, once i get some better prints I mat put it back.

                          BLTouch is now dialed in and I just need to tweak the prints to stop extraneous links between parts - another self inflected issue I'm sure.

                          Not replacing the cracked carriage until it fails completely - it's a royal PITA replacing it and setting up again IMHO

                          Have made note to self that whenever I monkey around with the hotend and/or carriage I run an autotune, fan on fill, before i do anything else ;o)

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