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    rikesh942018
    last edited by 1 Dec 2018, 18:23

    I have been using the Mini IR Sensor for the machine that I have been developing (Company printer) unfortunately when the machine was sent for user testing, there were few issues with PEI surface on aluminium (I knew this was going to be a problem but I didn't think it was going to be a big issue). Out of 4 sensors 2 had several problems after few days of printing.

    As much as I love the IR Sensors and will continue to use them for personal use I am now looking for a different sensor for the company printers.

    I wanted to know if anyone has tried the Precision Piezo Sensor on the E3D Threaded Heatsink design:
    https://e3d-online.com/v6-threaded-heatsink

    Just so people get a better idea, the design looks like this: 0_1543688199221_Capture213123123213.JPG

    The threaded heatsink is attached using a M12 nut between a milled aluminum bracket, I want to avoid modifying this too much but I am not sure if it is even possible to attach a Piezo sensor to this.

    I know Dc42 has a design for delta machines that use this heatsink and some type of contact sensor but could not find any more information on the actual sensor or how its attached to this heatsink 😞

    Any help is appreciated, Thanks guys

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      dc42 administrators @rikesh942018
      last edited by 1 Dec 2018, 20:34

      @rikesh942018 said in Precision Piezo for E3D V6 Threaded Heatsink:

      I know Dc42 has a design for delta machines that use this heatsink and some type of contact sensor but could not find any more information on the actual sensor or how its attached to this heatsink

      See https://www.duet3d.com/DuetAddons/DeltaSmartEffector and https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer for the details.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        rikesh942018 @dc42
        last edited by 3 Dec 2018, 09:48

        @dc42

        Hello,

        I had a look at this earlier before posting this, I should have specified that the machine is a Corexy and not a Delta. I have been trying to search for how you have implemented the contact sensor with the heatsink but wasn't able to find much information. Is there any chance you are planning on developing something like this for a Cartesian system.

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          Dougal1957
          last edited by 3 Dec 2018, 09:55

          you could also have a look at this thread link text

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            rikesh942018 @Dougal1957
            last edited by 3 Dec 2018, 12:02

            @dougal1957 Thank you so much, I never saw that page

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              Moriquendi
              last edited by 3 Dec 2018, 14:23

              I have a threaded heatsink and it should be trivial to design a mount for it and the Orion. The only reason I haven't done it yet is that nobody's asked for it and as far as I can see the uptake of threaded heatsink has not been huge. Give me a day or two and I'll see what I can come up with.

              Idris

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                rikesh942018 @Moriquendi
                last edited by 3 Dec 2018, 14:42

                @moriquendi

                Well if you can design a mount for it, I would be happy to purchase the Orion module for testing, ideally later I would try to incorporate the design to work with my aluminium milled part.

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                  zzing
                  last edited by 3 Dec 2018, 23:03

                  @rikesh942018 said in Precision Piezo for E3D V6 Threaded Heatsink:

                  I wanted to know if anyone has tried the Precision Piezo Sensor on the E3D Threaded Heatsink design:

                  I have actually just done this with a mini kossel that I am retrofitting. It does not use the smart effector, but one of my own design. It is presently in pieces awaiting linear rails however.

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                    rikesh942018 @zzing
                    last edited by 4 Dec 2018, 11:25

                    @zzing said in Precision Piezo for E3D V6 Threaded Heatsink:

                    @rikesh942018 said in Precision Piezo for E3D V6 Threaded Heatsink:

                    I wanted to know if anyone has tried the Precision Piezo Sensor on the E3D Threaded Heatsink design:

                    I have actually just done this with a mini kossel that I am retrofitting. It does not use the smart effector, but one of my own design. It is presently in pieces awaiting linear rails however.

                    Mind sharing the design? I can try to look into adapting the design for my machine.

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                      Moriquendi
                      last edited by 4 Dec 2018, 16:06

                      First prototype mount for the threaded heatsink. Print with 0.2mm layer height.

                      Idris

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                        rikesh942018 @Moriquendi
                        last edited by 4 Dec 2018, 18:01

                        @moriquendi said in Precision Piezo for E3D V6 Threaded Heatsink:

                        First prototype mount for the threaded heatsink. Print with 0.2mm layer height.

                        Idris

                        Thanks for the quick design, you have a new buyer for the Orion Module

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                          Dougal1957 @Moriquendi
                          last edited by 4 Dec 2018, 18:14

                          @moriquendi Idris If you remember I asked about this some time ago but I was more interested in a bare pub that would take the threaded heatsink however this solution may well work for me. Do you have a render showing how it all fits together?

                          Doug

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                            Moriquendi
                            last edited by 4 Dec 2018, 18:47

                            I don't think (at the moment) that there's sufficient market for a PCB specifically for the threaded heatsink though hopefully that will change, the groove mount is... suboptimal.

                            This however involves much less investment.
                            0_1543949272026_Orion v6 Threaded 2.jpg 0_1543949015924_Orion v6 Threaded 1.jpg

                            Green is the new part specific to the threaded heatsink.
                            Blue is a standard Orion top piece, either screwmount (shown) or threaded or a custom part.
                            Purple is the Orion PCB.

                            Idris

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                              Dougal1957 @Moriquendi
                              last edited by 4 Dec 2018, 19:25

                              @moriquendi ah so the thread it integral to the mount then?

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                                Moriquendi
                                last edited by 4 Dec 2018, 19:28

                                Yes, it's actually very secure even when tightened by hand.

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                                  Dougal1957 @Moriquendi
                                  last edited by Dougal1957 12 Apr 2018, 21:34 4 Dec 2018, 21:33

                                  @moriquendi how about in a heated chamber tho?

                                  May well print one and check it out tho and order a orion to see how it works out.

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                                    Moriquendi
                                    last edited by 4 Dec 2018, 21:50

                                    I think that you would be able to print a mount in nylon or some other material that would hold up in a heated chamber up to the temperature where the piezos would become unreliable anyway (somewhere around 80c I would expect)

                                    Idris

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                                      zzing @rikesh942018
                                      last edited by 6 Dec 2018, 00:42

                                      @rikesh942018 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3262683

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                                        rikesh942018 @zzing
                                        last edited by 6 Dec 2018, 09:53

                                        @zzing Thanks for uploading this

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                                          rikesh942018 @Moriquendi
                                          last edited by 12 Dec 2018, 11:13

                                          @Moriquendi

                                          Hello,

                                          Would you be able to upload a STEP file please.

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