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    • insertnamehereundefined
      insertnamehere @dc42
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      @dc42

      I couldn't see any blobs or contamination on the surface.
      0_1541902806319_IMG_1629.jpg

      I used eSun PLA+ with 100% infill.

      Honestly, I took all care, but I can't be sure it wasn't something I did that damaged the sensor. Are you sure you want me to claim warranty?

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        We don't know whether the cracked sensor is our fault because of a manufacturing defect or because we didn't make the printed part thicker in our housing design, or something you did. In these cases we give the customer the benefit of the doubt. So please make a warranty claim.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        • insertnamehereundefined
          insertnamehere
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          @dc42
          Thanks you.

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          • 3dmntbighkerundefined
            3dmntbighker
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            Printing with eSun olive green PLA tonight. Pretty crap numbers.

            Duet3D laser filament monitor on endstop input 3, disabled, allowed movement 40% to 120%, check every 3.0mm, current position -7.3, brightness 91, shutter 17, measured minimum 27%, average 81%, maximum 204% over 4232.4mm

            Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
            Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
            MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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            • 3dmntbighkerundefined
              3dmntbighker
              last edited by

              Back to eSun yellow PETG, and my average was 84%. My minimum was -1%.

              Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
              Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
              MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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              • ShawnCundefined
                ShawnC
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                Regarding the filament monitor, can we use Prusa MK3 filament sensor as well? Can it be connected to E0 end stop?

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @ShawnC
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                  @shawnc said in Problems with new Laser Filament Monitor [SOLVED]:

                  Regarding the filament monitor, can we use Prusa MK3 filament sensor as well? Can it be connected to E0 end stop?

                  No it cannot be used because it does not have the control circuitry on it.

                  www.duet3d.com

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @ShawnC
                    last edited by dc42

                    @shawnc said in Problems with new Laser Filament Monitor [SOLVED]:

                    Regarding the filament monitor, can we use Prusa MK3 filament sensor as well? Can it be connected to E0 end stop?

                    No. The Prusa filament monitor uses a raw I2C interface to communicate between the sensor and the processor (and it's level shifted to 5V). We rejected that approach because I2C is a bad choice for connecting devices over more than a few cm, because of its poor noise immunity, the lack of any error detection, and the difficulty of recovering from I2C protocol errors. It may be possible to get it working reliably enough in a closely controlled system like a genuine Prusa i3, but it would be a support nightmare if used more widely, e.g. in home-build printers.

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                    • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                      3dmntbighker
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                      Solutech clear green PETG

                      Duet3D laser filament monitor on endstop input 3, disabled, allowed movement 40% to 120%, check every 3.0mm, current position -1.7, brightness 107, shutter 17, measured minimum 31%, average 79%, maximum 97% over 17533.6mm

                      Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                      Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                      MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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                      • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                        3dmntbighker
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                        Matterhackers Ryno clear:

                        Duet3D laser filament monitor on endstop input 3, disabled, allowed movement 40% to 120%, check every 3.0mm, current position -5.7, brightness 99, shutter 17, measured minimum -4%, average 69%, maximum 93% over 7284.9mm

                        So far my filament success rate hardly warrants using this sensor. Many dip into negative numbers.

                        Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                        Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                        MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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                        • hayseed_byteundefined
                          hayseed_byte @insertnamehere
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                            insertnamehere @hayseed_byte
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                            @hayseed_byte said in Problems with new Laser Filament Monitor [SOLVED]:

                            hayseed_byte 5 Nov 2017, 23:09

                            I really thought if I spent $180 on a board that it'd pretty much work out of the box and come with some clear instructions. I'm pretty handy with tools (I'm an industrial maintenance tech) but I've been working on this thing for two solid days and I'm still not printing. One of my Z steppers wouldn't do anything but stutter so I poked around with my multimeter for about an hour but didn't really change/repair anything and now both Z steppers are working fine but the Y stepper is going in the wrong direction. It was working fine before. Seems like random problems. Damn thing doesn't want to stay connected over wifi, either.

                            The cheap GT2560 I had wouldn't let me update the firmware and I got tired of having to change the stepspermm for the z-axis (upgraded to leadscrews from threaded rod). I ordered a $40 RAMPS that was basically DOA so I thought I'd go ahead and spend the money and get what everyone said was the best controller on the market because I was starting to get tired of working on my printer more than I was printing. Dropped $180USD and I've been working on it all weekend. A lot of that was spent re-crimping those damn PITA connectors, though.

                            I don't mean to rant. I'm just really disappointed. The cheap board had some annoying problems but at least I could print. A lot of time and money spent to make my printer worse off that it was before.

                            https://www.wildbot3d.com

                            Right back at you maintenance boi.

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                            • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                              3dmntbighker
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                              3D Solutech black PLA

                              Duet3D laser filament monitor on input 3, disabled, allow 40% to 120%, check every 3.0mm, current pos 4.0, brightness 95, shutter 17, measured min 15% avg 47% max 77% over 3105.0mm

                              I thought I had improved things by installing a clip on top of the Bondtech to keep the sensor from moving around as much with retraction. There goes that theory.

                              Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                              Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                              MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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                              • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                                3dmntbighker
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                                3D Solutech silver PLA

                                Duet3D laser filament monitor on input 3, disabled, allow 40% to 120%, check every 3.0mm, current pos -0.5, brightness 104, shutter 17, measured min -2% avg 91% max 196% over 986.7mm

                                That's about the worst I have seen.

                                Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                                Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                                MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  Yes, that's bad! I'm surprised, I would have expected silver PLA to be easy for the sensor to track.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                  • brunofportoundefined
                                    brunofporto @dc42
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                                    @dc42 Having a lot of trouble (needed to turn it off!!!) with purple PLA from Cliever (Brazilian manufacturer)

                                    The average below 50% but the total length very close to the theoretical from slicer - so that is curious.

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @brunofporto
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                                      @brunofporto said in Problems with new Laser Filament Monitor [SOLVED]:

                                      @dc42 Having a lot of trouble (needed to turn it off!!!) with purple PLA from Cliever (Brazilian manufacturer)

                                      The average below 50% but the total length very close to the theoretical from slicer - so that is curious.

                                      The total length is the length commanded (not measured).

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                      • insertnamehereundefined
                                        insertnamehere
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                                        I've removed the [SOLVED] for this thread as clearly some users are still having issues.

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                                        • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                                          3dmntbighker
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                                          Filamentum Rupunzel Silver

                                          Duet3D laser filament monitor on input 3, disabled, allow 15% to 125%, check every 3.0mm, current pos -0.4, brightness 79, shutter 15, measured min 40% avg 93% max 181% over 12606.4mm

                                          I have a had quite a few prints with no issues lately, but here we go. This may be no surprise with the glitter, but this is amazing filament. I started a Google Sheet to track the numbers in case I want to start actively managing each filament to adapt the laser to the filament.

                                          0_1547274273719_Screen Shot 2019-01-11 at 10.18.54 PM.png

                                          Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                                          Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                                          MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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                                          • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                                            3dmntbighker
                                            last edited by

                                            Sainsmart black PETG:

                                            Duet3D laser filament monitor on input 3, disabled, allow 15% to 125%, check every 3.0mm, current pos 9.2, brightness 100, shutter 17, measured min 14% avg 62% max 93% over 317.2mm

                                            Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                                            Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                                            MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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