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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @thwe
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      @thwe

      Thomas,

      I'm glad that you've found a cause and a work around. No doubt David will look further into the cause and come up with a solution in the firmware.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @thwe
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        @thwe said in Drive 3 is slower as drive 2 at homing in Z [Solved]:

        So, tested again:

        1. Turn on Duet Wifi - homez.g as in the appendix
        2. G28 Z (via Button Home Z in the DWC)
        3. Homing OK!
        4. Moving in Z: G1 Z-10 (via button in the DWC)
        5. G28 Z (via Button HomeZ in the DWC)
        6. Homing OK!
        7. Moving in Z: G1 Z-10 (via button in the DWC)
        8. Edit homez.g -> set a semicolon before M584 P4
        9. G28 Z (via Button HomeZ in the DWC)
        10. Homing NOT OK! -> U slower as Z
        11. Moving in Z: G1 Z-10 (via button in the DWC)
        12. Edit homez.g -> delet Semicolon before M584 P4
        13. G28 Z (via Button HomeZ in the DWC)
        14. Homing OK! -> U as fast as Z

        Thus, it is certain that only the first line of content "M584 P4" in homez.g prevents the strange behavior of the different speeds.

        Only valid if the z-axis has already been homed. After a new start or reboot, the FIRST homing will always work, whether with or without the above line, until the second homing occurs.

        for safety's sake again here my config.g
        0_1542973940030_config.g

        ... and here the homez.g:
        0_1542974052538_homez.g

        Thanks!

        Does it still work if you exchange the M584 P4 and G91 commands?

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • thweundefined
          thwe @dc42
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          @dc42 :

          Thanks!

          Does it still work if you exchange the M584 P4 and G91 commands?

          Yes, it does not matter if the M584 ...command comes before or after the G91 - with it work

          Thomas

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          • thweundefined
            thwe @deckingman
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            @deckingman said in Drive 3 is slower as drive 2 at homing in Z [Solved]:

            @thwe

            Thomas,

            I'm glad that you've found a cause and a work around. No doubt David will look further into the cause and come up with a solution in the firmware.

            I think so too, but the importance is not so high for this problem - who needs homing after a homing 🙃

            Thomas

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman @thwe
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              @thwe said in Drive 3 is slower as drive 2 at homing in Z [Solved]:

              @deckingman said in Drive 3 is slower as drive 2 at homing in Z [Solved]:

              @thwe

              Thomas,

              I'm glad that you've found a cause and a work around. No doubt David will look further into the cause and come up with a solution in the firmware.

              I think so too, but the importance is not so high for this problem - who needs homing after a homing 🙃

              Actually I quite often home Z repeatedly. I often swap hot end assemblies which changes the offset from the nozzle to the probe and find that the easiest way to adjust is simply to home Z, then raise the bed until it grips a thin piece of paper, edit the offset and re-home, repeat as necessary. Admittedly I haven't had the problem you had with multiple screws but someone else might in the future so it's good to find a solution, even if it might seem to be a small and rare problem.

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @thwe
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                @thwe said in Drive 3 is slower as drive 2 at homing in Z [Solved]:

                @dc42 :

                Thanks!

                Does it still work if you exchange the M584 P4 and G91 commands?

                Yes, it does not matter if the M584 ...command comes before or after the G91 - with it work

                Thanks, I believe I've found the cause and I will implement a change in 2.02RC5 that I hope will fix it. It's to do with what happens when in M584 you reassign a driver to an axis that is initially not visible.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • thweundefined
                  thwe @dc42
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                  @dc42 : Unfortunately the update to 2.02RC5 has brought no solution, it has even become worse.
                  After start or reboot the z-homing is ok, every further homing now always runs with the mentioned problem, no matter if with or without "M584 P4" and whether before or after the G91

                  Thomas

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @thwe
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                    @thwe, I'm sorry to hear that. Added to my list to investigate again.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • thweundefined
                      thwe
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                      Thanks for the effort.
                      I'm now back to 2.02RC4 to take the next steps, it's not rushing.

                      Thomas

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                      • thweundefined
                        thwe @dc42
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                        @dc42 :
                        today the firmware update on RC6 made -> homing (speed of both drives) is now ok

                        Thomas

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          Thanks for confirming this. I'm sorry it took me a while to get it right.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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