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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @CozyP
      last edited by

      @cozyp said in Piezo Z probe problems/ Seeking alternatives !!!:

      G1 X0 Y0 F3600 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
      G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

      Is 0,0 really where you want to probe the bed?

      G31 P400 X0 Y0 Z0.55

      Is Z0.55 a measured trigger height value? It's normal for nozzle contact probes to require negative values since they push into the bed and compress the springs, etc a bit before triggering.

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      • CozyPundefined
        CozyP @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux Z0.55 is the real difference between nozzle and glass with the help of the piezo.
        If I home Z and remove the piezo, there is a gap between nozzle and bed, so I added +0.55 as an offset to position the nozzle exactly on bed surface.

        Also, beware that this piezo DOES NOT have springs, it's a simple film attached to the nozzle

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Your trigger height should be a measured using this procedure: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

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          • CozyPundefined
            CozyP
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            gimme 5' to try that asap and provide you an update.
            Thanks

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            • CozyPundefined
              CozyP
              last edited by

              G30 S-1
              Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move.

              Also, the machine continuously crashes to X axis endstop for 1 sec.....

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Is that when doing homeall?

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                • CozyPundefined
                  CozyP
                  last edited by

                  No. Only if I hit the G30 S-1 or the Bed Mesh compensation

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Did you move the print head to bed center with the nozzle just touching the bed before doing G30 S-1?

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                    • CozyPundefined
                      CozyP
                      last edited by

                      Yes, I did exactly as the post you re-directed me dictated

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        So it goes from bed center to crash into the x endstop?

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                        • CozyPundefined
                          CozyP
                          last edited by

                          Yes, exactly

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Can you post your config.g as it is now?

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                            • CozyPundefined
                              CozyP
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                              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Sun Dec 23 2018 19:43:56 GMT+0200 (Eastern European Standard Time)

                              ; General preferences
                              G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                              M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

                              ; Network
                              M550 P"THE PRINTER" ; Set machine name
                              M552 S1 ; Enable network
                              M587 S"Hector's House" P"2291052862" ; Configure access point. You can delete this line once connected
                              M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                              M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                              M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                              ; Drives
                              M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
                              M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                              M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                              M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                              M350 X32 Y32 Z32 E32 I0 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
                              M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z791.50 E1800.00 ; Set steps per mm
                              M566 X780.00 Y780.00 Z300.00 E840.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                              M203 X16200.00 Y16200.00 Z420.00 E7200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                              M201 X1800.00 Y1800.00 Z6.00 E250.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                              M906 X450.00 Y950.00 Z1000.00 E1389.00 I50 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                              ; Axis Limits
                              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                              M208 X360 Y660 Z180 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                              ; Endstops
                              M574 Z1 S0 ; Set active low and disabled endstops
                              M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; Set active high endstops

                              ; Z-Probe
                              M558 P5 R0.4 H3 F400 T3600 ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                              G31 P400 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                              M557 X0:330 Y0:660 S40 ; Define mesh grid

                              ; Heaters
                              M140 H-1 ; Disable heated bed
                              M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                              M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                              ; Fans
                              M106 P0 S0.5 I0 F600 H1 T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                              M106 P1 S0 I0 F200 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                              M106 P2 S0 I0 F200 H-1 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off

                              ; Tools
                              M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                              G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                              ; Automatic power saving
                              M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

                              ; Custom settings are not configured

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by dc42

                                You don't have the i1 parameter in the M558 command, If the sensor is a naked piezo cylinder (which is what it looks like), you must use i1 in that command as I said in my previous email, otherwise you will get the "already triggered" error.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                • CozyPundefined
                                  CozyP
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                                  @Phaedrux Thank you for taking the time and helping me out.
                                  The truth is, there is so much time lost and solution is not found.

                                  If we accept the fact, that Duet is not compatible with this sensor, what are the other options available???
                                  All I have is a BLclone and mechanical endstop. Bear in mind, I am seeking the easiest solution available, as I just learned G code, previous motherboard was plugNplay

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                                  • CozyPundefined
                                    CozyP
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42 Just added I1 and the nozzle crashed to bed on mesh compensation.
                                    However, it did home correctly.

                                    ; Z-Probe
                                    M558 P5 I1 R0.4 H3 F400 T3600 ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                                    G31 P400 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                    M557 X0:330 Y0:660 S40 ; Define mesh grid

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                                    • CozyPundefined
                                      CozyP
                                      last edited by

                                      @dc42 While crashing onto the bed, I got this error

                                      G32 Error: Z probe was not triggered during probing move

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by dc42

                                        Like I said before, test with the polarity reversed. Also test at different Z probing speeds (F parameter in the M558 command). See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe for how to test it.

                                        However, a naked piezo cylinder is a very primitive type of Z probe, and reliably operation may be hard to achieve. You might possibly find that P1 in the M558 command along with i0 works better than P8 (again, try both polarities).

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Might want to trigger it by hand while testing rather than wait for it to contact the bed just in case. That way you can kill power if it doesn't trigger as expected.

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                                          • CozyPundefined
                                            CozyP
                                            last edited by

                                            @dc42 Okay, I tried P1 mode while erasing I1 , I didn't get a single error.

                                            However, it crashes onto X endstop for 1sec continuously

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