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    • GPetropoulosundefined
      GPetropoulos @Phaedrux
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      @phaedrux said in Autolevel with NPN NO Inductive sensor problems:

      It's not really a backup. The endstop would only trigger and stop movement while doing a G1 move with an S1 switch as done in the homing files to seek the endstop. Hitting the endstop at any other time would have no effect.

      So yes, for testing at least, I would suggest trying to use your probe in the homing file to set Z0

      So it would change from this

      G1 S1 Z-255 F1800       ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
       G90                     ; absolute positioning
      G92 Z0                  ; set Z to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
      

      To this

      G90   ; absolute positioning
      G1 X150 Y150 ; move probe to bed center
      G30 ; probe the bed
      G1 X0 Y0  ; return to home position
      

      When i probe the bed does it do a g92 as well? How will i tell it where zero is? There is a trigger height value to be used to direct this one but how do i do that?
      My trigger value is 0.7mm.
      So do i give a G92 Z0.7 after it probes?

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @GPetropoulos
        last edited by Phaedrux

        G92 is not necessary when using G30. It will use the configuration provided in M558 and G31 to set the Z height.

        The trigger height in G31 Z tells the firmware how far away from the bed the nozzle is when the probe triggers. So when it triggers during G30, it knows it's that high above the bed, and therefore, Z0 is established. The X and Y portion of G31 tells the firmware where the probe is in relation to the nozzle. G29 also uses the information from M558 and G31.

        Makes sense?

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        • GPetropoulosundefined
          GPetropoulos @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux Yes certainly.

          Let me try this. I think i understand the problem now. So my homing hits the endstop and gets a zero value from there. So the z trigger height is not used. That is why depending on the z end stop distance we see different heights in the above pictures. So the 0.7 (my z trigger) reflected on the distance from the z end stop 0..

          One more thing. When typing the z trigger in G31 should it be negative?
          eg G31 P1000 X-55 Y0 Z0.7
          OR
          G31 P1000 X-55 Y0 Z-0.7

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            It should be the value you get from doing the G30 S-1 procedure you linked above.

            It will only be a negative value in cases where the nozzle ends up pressing down into the surface of the bed, like when using a nozzle contact probe like a piezoelectric.

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            • GPetropoulosundefined
              GPetropoulos @Phaedrux
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              @phaedrux I mean it is not really negative but is it written like that? Writing it as a positive in the G31 gave the blue mesh result above which is below the xy plane.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @GPetropoulos
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                @gpetropoulos No you shouldn't flip the sign on it. The probe triggers before the nozzle touches the bed, correct? No after? That would be a positive value.

                I'm hoping that after we change your homing file to use G30, and re run G29, we will get a better result.

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                • GPetropoulosundefined
                  GPetropoulos @Phaedrux
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                  @phaedrux Certainly that solves the mesh problem at least. This looks much more consistent.
                  I used a negative value on G31. I am pretty sure that is it. I will run a test print and see for sure now.

                  0_1546111884213_Screenshot_2018-12-29 GP CR20(9).png

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Using a negative value for G31 isn't consistent with how it should be working.
                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/GCode#Section_G31_Set_or_Report_Current_Probe_status

                    Use this to get the value.
                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

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                    • GPetropoulosundefined
                      GPetropoulos
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                      Updating my new Homeall using the z probe as z endstop.

                      ; homeall.g
                      ; called to home all axes
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Thu Dec 13 2018 23:04:14 GMT+0200 (Eastern European Standard Time)
                      G91 ; relative positioning
                      G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      G1 S1 X-235 Y-220 F6000 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                      G1 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                      G1 S1 X-235 Y-220 F360 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                      G90 ; absolute positioning
                      G1 X160 Y100 F6000 ; move probe to bed center
                      G30 F1000 ; probe the bed
                      G1 X0 Y0 Z2 F6000 ; return to home position and 2mm higher than the surface

                      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                      ;G91 ; relative positioning
                      ;G1 S2 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      ;G90 ; absolute positioning

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                      • GPetropoulosundefined
                        GPetropoulos
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                        @phaedrux Not clear to me yet. I will try with positive then first and report back.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @GPetropoulos
                          last edited by

                          @gpetropoulos Yes that looks good, except that G30 won't take an F parameter. It will use the F value given in M558 in config.g. I suggested a value of 100 earlier.

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                          • GPetropoulosundefined
                            GPetropoulos @Phaedrux
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                            @phaedrux Yeah probably. I tried the 100 and was too slow. 😄 I have F1000 in my M558 and probably that is being used. I started the test print and seems to be working like a charm. 🙂

                            Thank you very much. I would not manage to get it done this fast without your help. Cheers!
                            Wish you the best and a Happy New Year mate.

                            So for anyone confused set positive value for trigger height in G31 command!!

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              Glad it's working properly now. I think the issue was a result of Z0 being set differently than what the G31 trigger height would have given, and the difference was resulting in the huge offset from the Z plane in the heightmap.

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