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    • AlexLinundefined
      AlexLin @kuhnikuehnast
      last edited by

      @kuhnikuehnast
      this will still work:
      "............
      Bed levelling using multiple independent Z leadscrews
      Bed levelling using manual bed levelling screws
      .................."

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      • AlexLinundefined
        AlexLin
        last edited by

        good idea, the whole concept with borh G32 and G29 was a bit confusing

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          One additional item that will still be supported is using bed.g to test Z probe repeatability, using a series of G30 commands with a S-1 parameter on the last one.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • SupraGuyundefined
            SupraGuy
            last edited by

            As it stands, the proposed functions are exactly what I use G32 for, ie: adjusting multiple Z lead screws.

            Z probe testing is something that I should probably do, too.

            Lead screw driven printer, powered by Duet 2 Wifi
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            • Sheldorundefined
              Sheldor
              last edited by Sheldor

              I'm currently modifying my printing gcode for a 3x3 grid before printing (used to do a g32 5 point + a large occasional g29 20x20 point it adapts to, I'm finally taking the time to fully understand g29)

              if I manually keep a grid of 20 x 20 for minor curves in my bed, then use a 3x3 grid each print, will the g29 printing gcode keep the 20x20 grid and be adjusted by the 3x3 grid or will the printer only print using the new grid?

              I have already set up my g29 parameters for the 20 x 20 grid, so adjusting for a quick 2x2 or most likely a 3x3 after bed heating isn't an issue, it's mostly if the 20x20 grid can still be used, I don't want to spend an hour probing for each print, but the 20x20 grid allows for really nice first layers on a metal bed.

              current bed leveling gcode,
              ; bed.g
              ; called to perform automatic bed compensation via G32

              M561 ; clear any bed transform
              M400 ; dummy for Z probe, stop any moves
              G28 ; home all axes
              ; Probe the bed at 5 points (removed for now, only g29 is loaded)
              ; G30 P0 X26 Y3 H0 Z-99999
              ; G30 P1 X26 Y300 H0 Z-99999
              ; G30 P2 X263 Y300 H0 Z-99999
              ; G30 P3 X263 Y3 H0 Z-99999
              ; G30 P4 X144.5 Y155 H0 Z-99999 S5
              M400 ; dummy for Z probe, stop any moves
              G29 S1 ; load hight map (needs to switch to a csv file)
              M376 H10 ;taper the compensation after 10mm

              printing gcode needs to switch g32 for a g29 loading then 3x3 probing, and a macro for 20x20 probing to a csv needs to be copied/ made.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @Sheldor
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                @sheldor said in Removal of support for 3-, 4- and 5-point G32 bed compensation:

                if I manually keep a grid of 20 x 20 for minor curves in my bed, then use a 3x3 grid each print, will the g29 printing gcode keep the 20x20 grid and be adjusted by the 3x3 grid or will the printer only print using the new grid?

                No. You can only have one type of bed compensation in effect at a time (either the old 3/4/5-point bed compensation, or mesh bed compensation), and if you are using mesh bed compensation, only one grid can be active at a time.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • Sheldorundefined
                  Sheldor @dc42
                  last edited by

                  @dc42 darn, looks like I'll have to do something like 4x4

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by Phaedrux

                    @Sheldor Is it really necessary to do a multipoint probe before each print? You can load the detailed heightmap and as long a your bed hadn't gone out of level or shifted it did still be relevant.

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @phaedrux said in Removal of support for 3-, 4- and 5-point G32 bed compensation:

                      Is it really necessary to do a multipoint probe before each print? You can load the detailed height map and as long a your bed hadn't gone out of level or shifted it did still be relevant.

                      I have not found it necessary to probe before each print.

                      On my FT-5 I don't have a probe and just check the bed manually using a shim gauge once a month or so but it doesn't seem to be changing.

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt said in Removal of support for 3-, 4- and 5-point G32 bed compensation:

                        On my FT-5 I don't have a probe and just check the bed manually using a shim gauge once a month or so but it doesn't seem to be changing.

                        If you have a good Z probe, you can use it to check the bed level and tell you the levelling screw corrections needed. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_the_manual_bed_levelling_assistant.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @dc42
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 said in Removal of support for 3-, 4- and 5-point G32 bed compensation:

                          If you have a good Z probe, you can use it to check the bed level and tell you the levelling screw corrections needed. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_the_manual_bed_levelling_assistant.

                          Someday I'm going to fit a Z probe and try that out.

                          It takes just a few minutes to adjust the leveling screws manually using the shim gauge and the results are all I could ask for. The printer works great.

                          Thanks for the reminder.

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • Sheldorundefined
                            Sheldor @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @phaedrux I have dual lead screws (not independent) so unless I keep Z steppers on between prints, moving the bed or removing torque will tilt it between those two

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