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    wilriker @TLeTourneau
    last edited by 12 Jan 2019, 20:47

    @tletourneau said in Dual Z bed leveling question.:

    Thanks, I've been looking at them, bangood, and Amazon and haven't had any luck finding single start 1 or 2mm t8's 675mm or longer (I can have it cut if needed).

    I've ordered my lead screw from this shop. The following link leads you to 750mm long ones. They do have shorter and also longer ones (1500mm was the longest I spotted so far):

    304 stainless steel T8 screw length 750mm lead 1mm 2mm 3mm 4mm 8mm 10mm 12mm 14mm 16mm trapezoidal spindle screw 1pcs

    Manuel
    Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
    with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
    My Tool Collection

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      TLeTourneau @wilriker
      last edited by 12 Jan 2019, 20:51

      @wilriker said in Dual Z bed leveling question.:

      @tletourneau said in Dual Z bed leveling question.:

      Thanks, I've been looking at them, bangood, and Amazon and haven't had any luck finding single start 1 or 2mm t8's 675mm or longer (I can have it cut if needed).

      I've ordered my lead screw from this shop. The following link leads you to 750mm long ones. They do have shorter and also longer ones (1500mm was the longest I spotted so far):

      304 stainless steel T8 screw length 750mm lead 1mm 2mm 3mm 4mm 8mm 10mm 12mm 14mm 16mm trapezoidal spindle screw 1pcs

      Thanks! I don't know why I couldn't find it, maybe getting search burn out. Next question, 1mm or 2mm single start T8?

      Thanks,
      Tom

      TronXY X5S-500 (CoerXY)
      Duet 2 Ethernet v1.04
      Firmware Version: 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
      Web Interface Version: 1.22.6
      7" PanelDue
      E3D V6 Clone
      MOSFET's for hot end
      1000w Keenovo with SSR for heat bed
      dc42 Mini IR Sensor or BLTouch

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        wilriker @TLeTourneau
        last edited by 12 Jan 2019, 21:11

        @tletourneau I do use 2mm single start. But since you have a huge bed and obviously issues with keeping it at where it is, 1mm might be the best solution. But then again they are so cheap you could just order both types. Advantage of 2mm would be double the speed compared to 1mm which might be helpful for long movements after a tall print.

        Manuel
        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
        My Tool Collection

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          TLeTourneau @wilriker
          last edited by 12 Jan 2019, 21:13

          @wilriker said in Dual Z bed leveling question.:

          @tletourneau I do use 2mm single start. But since you have a huge bed and obviously issues with keeping it at where it is, 1mm might be the best solution. But then again they are so cheap you could just order both types. Advantage of 2mm would be double the speed compared to 1mm which might be helpful for long movements after a tall print.

          That's a thought, get each to try. Would anti-backlash buts be recommended as well?

          Thanks,
          Tom

          TronXY X5S-500 (CoerXY)
          Duet 2 Ethernet v1.04
          Firmware Version: 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
          Web Interface Version: 1.22.6
          7" PanelDue
          E3D V6 Clone
          MOSFET's for hot end
          1000w Keenovo with SSR for heat bed
          dc42 Mini IR Sensor or BLTouch

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            Stephen6309 @TLeTourneau
            last edited by 12 Jan 2019, 21:17

            @tletourneau The weight of the bed removes backlash, those nuts aren't need. Misspelled words sure do change things. 🙂

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              TLeTourneau @Stephen6309
              last edited by 12 Jan 2019, 21:36

              @stephen6309 ha, oops!

              Thanks,
              Tom

              TronXY X5S-500 (CoerXY)
              Duet 2 Ethernet v1.04
              Firmware Version: 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
              Web Interface Version: 1.22.6
              7" PanelDue
              E3D V6 Clone
              MOSFET's for hot end
              1000w Keenovo with SSR for heat bed
              dc42 Mini IR Sensor or BLTouch

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                Phaedrux Moderator @TLeTourneau
                last edited by Phaedrux 1 Dec 2019, 23:04 12 Jan 2019, 23:02

                @tletourneau That's definitely some wobble there. Two lead screws like that will always have instability. You may want to look into a 3 lead screw arrangement. Check the printer in my signature to see what I did to solve the issue on the Dbot. I could probably stand on my bed and it's not going anywhere.

                I think 2mm lead would be a good compromise. The 1mm lead is rather slow for movement and you end up having quite a bit of rotational momentum so slow acceleration and deceleration is needed. For normal printing it's irrelevant, but if you're going to be jogging the bed a lot then 2mm for sure.

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  TLeTourneau @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 13 Jan 2019, 01:00

                  @phaedrux Yeah, I've thought about adding a third Z. I think I'll order four 700mm T8*2's in case one is bent to give me the option of adding a third screw in the future. I like the idea of parallel motors so I'd be looking at adding a Duex 5 to get more drivers to drive a third axis.

                  Are there any concerns cutting the lead screws to the correct length?

                  Thanks,
                  Tom

                  TronXY X5S-500 (CoerXY)
                  Duet 2 Ethernet v1.04
                  Firmware Version: 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
                  Web Interface Version: 1.22.6
                  7" PanelDue
                  E3D V6 Clone
                  MOSFET's for hot end
                  1000w Keenovo with SSR for heat bed
                  dc42 Mini IR Sensor or BLTouch

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                    Phaedrux Moderator @TLeTourneau
                    last edited by 13 Jan 2019, 01:02

                    @tletourneau just be sure to protect the threads and you'll want to bevel the edge after you cut it.

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      TLeTourneau
                      last edited by 13 Jan 2019, 03:56

                      Well I ordered a pair of 670mm 8mm T8x2 Lead Screw Trapezoidal ACME w/ Small Delrin Anti-Backlash Nut kit from ZYLTech. The parts were significantly less expensive from
                      aliexpress but once you add the shipping cost it came out fairly even although I'm only ordering two they have it in stock and I ordered it second day air.

                      Here is the link to what I ordered.
                      http://www.zyltech.com/8mm-t8x2-lead-screw-trapezoidal-acme-w-small-delrin-anti-backlash-nut-kit-custom-length-up-to-1000mm/

                      Thanks,
                      Tom

                      TronXY X5S-500 (CoerXY)
                      Duet 2 Ethernet v1.04
                      Firmware Version: 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
                      Web Interface Version: 1.22.6
                      7" PanelDue
                      E3D V6 Clone
                      MOSFET's for hot end
                      1000w Keenovo with SSR for heat bed
                      dc42 Mini IR Sensor or BLTouch

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