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    • 691175002undefined
      691175002
      last edited by

      If the servo drive has optocouplers you probably need a 5-24 volt signal that can source or sink >2ma.

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      • ajlappundefined
        ajlapp
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        I assume I still use M92 to set steps/mm....how does that look? Is P5 then referenced as E2?

        M92 E2:5000; Something like this?

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        • nhofundefined
          nhof
          last edited by

          I have integrated a few different servo motors and here are a few odd things I have run into.

          1. signal timings as mentioned by David. Dir change especially can be tricky because it's not always listed on data sheets so try large-ish values. Looks like you need 0.85us min pulse width for step signals on the ACS806.
          2. signal voltage levels - check to make sure you are getting high enough voltage on the step/dir compared to the data sheet for the servo drive. Yours should accept anything over 4V.
          3. Make sure your signal GND is good. If this is not a good ground reference you will never get repeatable performance from the system.

          Depending on the servo software you might also be able to get a readout of the commanded position or input signal as you test. This will let you know where you are dropping steps or where the signal is getting funky.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @ajlapp
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            @ajlapp said in Leadshine BLM57180 Servos:

            I assume I still use M92 to set steps/mm....how does that look? Is P5 then referenced as E2?

            M92 E2:5000; Something like this?

            No, still as X. The M584 command is the one that tells the firmware that you are using driver 5 for the X axis (which is what I assume you are doing - you haven't posted your config.g file so I can't check).

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • ajlappundefined
              ajlapp
              last edited by

              Config below. Ultimately I'm hoping to use two of these BLM57180 servos for the X axis. All of my testing had been completed with the servo connected to P0...the config below is me trying to switch to P5.

              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Wed Jan 16 2019 13:17:53 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

              ; General preferences
              G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
              M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

              ; Network
              M550 P"AAM_Large_Volume_Printer" ; Set machine name
              M551 P"password: ; Set password
              M552 P10.0.0.55 S1 ; Enable network and set IP address
              M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Set netmask
              M554 P192.168.1.254 ; Set gateway
              M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
              M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
              M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

              M584 X0:5 Y1 Z2 E4;

              ; Drives
              M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
              M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
              M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards

              M569 P5 S0 T8.5:8.5:50.0:67.0 D0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards M569 P0 S0 T8.5:8.5:50.0:67.0 D0
              M92 X400.00 ;

              M92 Y80.00 Z4000.00 E400.00 ; Set steps per mm
              M566 X6000.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X30000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X2000.00 Y800.00 Z800.00 E800.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
              M208 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 S0 ; Set axis maxima

              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active high endstops

              ; Z-Probe
              M574 Z1 S2 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
              M558 P1 H5 F120 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
              G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
              M557 X15:0 Y15:195 S20 ; Define mesh grid

              ; Heaters
              M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
              M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
              M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
              M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

              ; Fans
              M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

              ; Tools
              M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

              ; Heaters
              M305 P0 X151 T"J"

              ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

              ; Custom settings are not configured

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              • nhofundefined
                nhof @ajlapp
                last edited by nhof

                @ajlapp You would just use M92 and the axis name. The drives would be mapped to an axis using M584 so it would end up looking something like this (this is assuming you have two separate drives hooked up to 5 and 6 which you want to drive together for the X ax):

                M584 X5:6 ; map drive 5:6 to X axis
                M350 X1 I0 ; set microstepping mode, full step with no interpolation
                M92 X400 ; set steps/mm for X axis (drive 5 & 6)
                M569 P5 S0 T8.5:8.5:50.0:67.0 ; set drive timings for drive 5 (first drive on breakout board)
                M569 P6 S0 T8.5:8.5:50.0:67.0 ; set drive timings for drive 6 (second drive on breakout board)

                How was the servo drive originally connected to the 0 output? And how are the new motors wired up? Do you have them daisy chained via an encoder cable or something or are they both just hooked up to the drive output?

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                • ajlappundefined
                  ajlapp
                  last edited by ajlapp

                  Solved

                  For one axis anyways...

                  I've always had the ACS806 wired directly into the stepper motor 4-pin connection....this was doing something so it seemed correct to me.

                  Anyway, I saw in the docs that the "expansion board" had dedicated pins for Step and Direction....so I wired directly to these pins on the 50-pin expansion port and it works perfectly.

                  So now my question is...can I wire to the 4-pin ports and can I ultimately use P0, P1 and P2? I have seven actuators and an extruder on this machine.

                  Thanks for all the help so far!

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by dc42

                    I suggest you use one of the internal stepper drivers for the extruder. The maximum number of independently-controlled external stepper drivers supported without changing the firmware is 7, made up of 5 on the expansion connector and 2 on CONN_LCD.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                    • nhofundefined
                      nhof @ajlapp
                      last edited by

                      If two of the actuators are always running together (twin x) you might try using just one step/dir output for both drivers. Assuming your setup is like this
                      2 X actuators
                      1 Y actuator
                      4 Z actuators (all independent)

                      If this is correct you could do something like the following
                      Drive 5: both X motors
                      Drive 6: Y motor
                      Drive 7, 8, 9, 10: Z motors
                      Drive 11: Extruder motor

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                      • ajlappundefined
                        ajlapp
                        last edited by

                        I think both of those are workable solutions.

                        I should be operational sometime next week.

                        I’ll load some pics once the magic starts.

                        Thanks again.

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