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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Have you tested and calibrated the Z probe? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • DocTruckerundefined
        DocTrucker @chriskimbr
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        @chriskimbr more than 5mm? Leave the I setting as it was if the duet was reporting it triggered when it should be.

        Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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        • chriskimbrundefined
          chriskimbr
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          homex works great
          homey works great

          homez sloooowly dives to bottom and grinds into it.

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          • DocTruckerundefined
            DocTrucker
            last edited by DocTrucker

            Do you mean it is forcing the nozzle into the bed, or the elevator to it's maximum travel position away from the nozzle?

            Move (manually if needbe) the machine so that the nozzle is ~10mm from the bed.

            Using the nudge buttons when you press +1mm does the gap between the nozzle and platform get larger or smaller?

            If smaller then you need to invert the drive direction.

            Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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            • chriskimbrundefined
              chriskimbr
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              home z sends the bed down. It should be going up.
              nudging is disabled until all axis are homed.

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman @chriskimbr
                last edited by deckingman

                @chriskimbr said in X5SA DuetWifi - Common Problems and Fixes.:

                home z sends the bed down. It should be going up.
                nudging is disabled until all axis are homed.

                It sounds like you just need to reverse the direction of the Z motor. To nudge the bed prior to homing use the S2 parameter. So from the console, input G1 Z1 S2 and bed should go down 1mm. If it goes up, that confirms the motor direction needs to be reversed. If your Z motor is connected to P2 then M569 P2 Sn (if "n" is zero set it to 1 and vice versa).

                Ian
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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @deckingman
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                  @deckingman said in X5SA DuetWifi - Common Problems and Fixes.:

                  @chriskimbr said in X5SA DuetWifi - Common Problems and Fixes.:

                  home z sends the bed down. It should be going up.
                  nudging is disabled until all axis are homed.

                  It sounds like you just need to reverse the direction of the Z motor. To nudge the bed prior to homing use the S2 parameter. So from the console, input G1 Z1 S2 and bed should go down 1mm. If it goes up, that confirms the motor direction needs to be reversed. If your Z motor is connected to P2 then M569 P2 Sn (if "n" is zero set it to 1 and vice versa).

                  Before sending G1 S2 moves to nudge the bed, send G91 to put the motion in relative mode.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @dc42
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                    @dc42 said in X5SA DuetWifi - Common Problems and Fixes.:

                    Before sending G1 S2 moves to nudge the bed, send G91 to put the motion in relative mode.

                    Good catch! - The Caffeine hasn't kicked in yet ☺

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • DocTruckerundefined
                      DocTrucker
                      last edited by

                      From my first post:

                      "Move head to middle of x, y, z travel.
                      Power on machine.
                      Send gcode G92 X0 Y0 Z0.
                      Use the web control to nudge each axis in small movements to ensure it moves in the correct direction."

                      Correct motion is raising the bed for a negative z nudge and dropping it for a posative.

                      Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                      • DocTruckerundefined
                        DocTrucker
                        last edited by DocTrucker

                        To be fair it is a common gotcha that one and it should be made more obvious in the documentation. I'll look at tweaking that later on when I'm not looking after my little one!

                        Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman @DocTrucker
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                          @doctrucker said in X5SA DuetWifi - Common Problems and Fixes.:

                          From my first post:

                          "Move head to middle of x, y, z travel.
                          Power on machine.
                          Send gcode G92 X0 Y0 Z0.
                          Use the web control to nudge each axis in small movements to ensure it moves in the correct direction."

                          Correct motion is raising the bed for a negative z nudge and dropping it for a posative.

                          Wes,

                          To move an axis before it's been homed, you need to use S2 in the travel moves.
                          G92 X0 Y0 Z0 won't work before the machine has been homed because it can't know the absolute position. Also, it'll only move to the centre of the bed if X0 Y0 has been set to the centre (but it would still need to be homed first).
                          The web control buttons won't work until the machine has been homed because they don't use S2. So to nudge an axis before it's been homed, one needs to use the console and first input G91 to set relative, then use G1 with S2 (or use M564 H0).

                          Ian
                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by dc42

                            Actually, sending G92 X0 Y0 Z0 is equivalent to homing the printer in that it flags the axes mentioned as homed.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • DocTruckerundefined
                              DocTrucker
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                              Yup, I use that regularly while testing.

                              Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                              • deckingmanundefined
                                deckingman @dc42
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                                @dc42 said in X5SA DuetWifi - Common Problems and Fixes.:

                                Actually, sending G92 X0 Y0 Z0 is equivalent to homing the printer in that it flags the axes mentioned as homed.

                                Oooh - learn something new every day................

                                Ian
                                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                • DocTruckerundefined
                                  DocTrucker @deckingman
                                  last edited by DocTrucker

                                  @deckingman found out of desperation when a mod ment I couldn't reach a limit switch! 😄

                                  Edit: Slight error. Think the G92 comments were used in the old reprapltd firmware homing routines. Seem to remember a conversation with dc42 about why I had G92 commands in the homing routines when I dusted it off to build parts for the core xy.

                                  Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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