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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      check the resistance of the thermistor with a multimeter

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      • chriskimbrundefined
        chriskimbr @Veti
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        @veti how?

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          set your multimeter to ohm and put one probe of the multimeter in each of connector plugs of the thermistor

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            just making sure the thermistors is normally in the heater block?

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            • chriskimbrundefined
              chriskimbr @Veti
              last edited by chriskimbr

              @veti the thermistor is in block when i power on yes.

              I assume i check ohms on thermistor with it out?

              Do i choose auto, kohms or Mohms?

              With thermistor out and multimeter on ohms auto i read 106.1

              With multimeter at Mohms i read 0.104

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              • chriskimbrundefined
                chriskimbr @chriskimbr
                last edited by

                @chriskimbr Is this a good reading or a bad reading?

                I don't know much about electronics. Please advise.

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                  Do i choose auto, kohms or Mohms?

                  100k is about right for the thermistor

                  what is the temperature reading when you turn on your duet?

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                  • chriskimbrundefined
                    chriskimbr @Veti
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                    @veti 0_1551543635887_16471070-F8B1-4432-A945-13379AF0A296.jpeg

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                    • chriskimbrundefined
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                      • chriskimbrundefined
                        chriskimbr @Veti
                        last edited by chriskimbr

                        @veti see pics

                        bed is 24 degrees but hot end is 2000.C which is fault.

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          do replace the connector with a proper molex plug.

                          check that there is no connection between the thermistor and the heater block/heater element.

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                          • chriskimbrundefined
                            chriskimbr
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                            @veti Are you saying replace the connector to the thermister e-temp 0 ?
                            What is a correct Molex connector for it?

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                            • chriskimbrundefined
                              chriskimbr
                              last edited by chriskimbr

                              I replaced the stock Tronxy X5SA hot end with the v6 clone above.
                              Ohm reading for new thermistor is 106.

                              Would these settings above need to change for the next thermistor / hot end?
                              Would this be causing the VSSA fault reading 2000.0C ?

                              config.g file section for
                              ; Heaters
                              M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                              M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                              M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                              ;M305 P1 R4700 T100000 B4388 ; set E0 thermistor parameters
                              M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
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                                @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                                What is a correct Molex connector for it?

                                the correct connector came with the duet. its the 2 pin one.

                                @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                                M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700

                                where did you get those values from?

                                @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                                Would this be causing the VSSA fault reading 2000.0C ?

                                no the cause for that is faulty wiring or a blown vssa fuse.

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                                • chriskimbrundefined
                                  chriskimbr
                                  last edited by chriskimbr

                                  @veti

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                                  Is this the correct connector?

                                  Regarding my setting...
                                  M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700

                                  Got the settings from someone else with same printer.

                                  What needs to be changed?

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti
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                                    @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                                    Got the settings from someone else with same printer.

                                    but you switched the thermistor. you need the settings that fit your thermistor.
                                    you can calculate the values from the thermistor table that you hopefully got with the hotend.

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                                    • chriskimbrundefined
                                      chriskimbr @Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      @veti The hot end with thermistor came with no documentation.

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        then you prob need to either

                                        • measure the resistance at 50 and 240 degrees using a calibrated temperature sensor.
                                        • buy a thermistor with documentation
                                        • live with inaccuracies that could range around 40 degrees
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                                        • chriskimbrundefined
                                          chriskimbr @Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @veti Im going to get a cheap hot end and thermistor from local store to test and see if im having same problem.
                                          from what your telling me , i need to look at thermisor table and set the 'C' value ?

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            you can use the configurator tool to calculate the values

                                            https://configurator.reprapfirmware.org/Heaters

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