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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      What is the reported VIN in the DWC?

      What do you see if you run M122?

      Are you VIN terminals tightly screwed down?

      What LEDs are lit on the edge of the board?

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      • Magnusjenundefined
        Magnusjen
        last edited by

        Unsure what DWC is in the context?

        The VIN terminals er screwed down tight

        I see green (3,3V) , red (5V) and blue ...

        I have switched it now to USB to interact via USB instead

        M122 reads as:

        6:52:18 AMM122
        Error: G0/G1: insufficient axes homed
        === Diagnostics ===
        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.02(RTOS) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
        Board ID: 08DGM-917DA-G4MSD-6J1F8-3SD6T-KSU7B
        Used output buffers: 3 of 20 (7 max)
        === RTOS ===
        Static ram: 25524
        Dynamic ram: 98568 of which 0 recycled
        Exception stack ram used: 360
        Never used ram: 6620
        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,648) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3868) IDLE(ready,200)
        Owned mutexes:
        === Platform ===
        Last reset 00:01:13 ago, cause: power up
        Last software reset at 2019-03-12 22:17, reason: Unknown, spinning module Platform, available RAM 6320 bytes (slot 2)
        Software reset code 0x40b0 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0042380f BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x20001eac Task 0x5754454e
        Stack: 004450eb 004450ea 41000000 f8000000 4016afff 00000000 00000000 3e178897 3e1cd04f 41880000 3e3a3335 3e638e3a 423d19d1 00000000 476e5600 37d33333 3c113333 60000000 3fe22666 60000010 00449abb 00000001 0040607f
        Error status: 0
        Free file entries: 10
        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
        SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
        MCU temperature: min 29.8, current 41.3, max 41.5
        Supply voltage: min 0.4, current 0.5, max 0.6, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: no
        Driver 0: ok, SG min/max not available
        Driver 1: ok, SG min/max not available
        Driver 2: ok, SG min/max not available
        Driver 3: ok, SG min/max not available
        Driver 4: ok, SG min/max not available
        Date/time: 2019-03-13 06:52:17
        Cache data hit count 177085076
        Slowest loop: 4.89ms; fastest: 0.06ms
        I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0
        === Move ===
        Hiccups: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, FreeDm: 240, MinFreeDm: 239, MaxWait: 62618ms, Underruns: 0, 0
        Scheduled moves: 2, completed moves: 2
        Bed compensation in use: none
        Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
        === Heat ===
        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
        === GCodes ===
        Segments left: 0
        Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
        Movement lock held by null
        http is idle in state(s) 0
        telnet is idle in state(s) 0
        file is idle in state(s) 0
        serial is idle in state(s) 0
        aux is idle in state(s) 0
        daemon is idle in state(s) 0
        queue is idle in state(s) 0
        autopause is idle in state(s) 0
        Code queue is empty.
        === Network ===
        Slowest loop: 14.03ms; fastest: 0.00ms
        Responder states: HTTP(4) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

        • WiFi -
          Network state is running
          WiFi module is connected to access point
          Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
          WiFi firmware version 1.21
          WiFi MAC address cc:50:e3:0d:27:75
          WiFi Vcc 3.42, reset reason Turned on by main processor
          WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 16280
          WiFi IP address 10.44.0.21
          WiFi signal strength -55dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
          Socket states: 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          DWC in this context is the Duet Web Control. The web interface you connect to. The machine status box shows the current VIN.

          The M122 results will be more informative if you gather it right after the problem has occured.

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            @magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range:

            Supply voltage: min 0.4, current 0.5, max 0.6, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: no

            you have no 12V or 24V. so when you try to move the motors they wont move.

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            • Magnusjenundefined
              Magnusjen @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @phaedrux ah! Right will look after work when i get WiFi connection again.

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              • Magnusjenundefined
                Magnusjen
                last edited by

                @veti the data is useless... I pulled it while it was connected with USB. I will pull better data in about 8 hours.

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                • Magnusjenundefined
                  Magnusjen @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux
                  So! I am home from work now, and I plugged in the DUET to my Ender 3 power supply which supplies 24 V (I just checked with my Multimeter and it confirms that part.

                  The DWC interface says I have 0.5V and the M122 prompt says the same.. For shits and giggles I looked at the fan pins and they also say 24V. I have had issues with my hot end fan not working when I plug it into the board so that is my next issue after getting the board to function again.

                  3:49:47 PMM122
                  === Diagnostics ===
                  RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.02(RTOS) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                  Board ID: 08DGM-917DA-G4MSD-6J1F8-3SD6T-KSU7B
                  Used output buffers: 3 of 20 (15 max)
                  === RTOS ===
                  Static ram: 25524
                  Dynamic ram: 98568 of which 0 recycled
                  Exception stack ram used: 288
                  Never used ram: 6692
                  Tasks: NETWORK(ready,648) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3868) IDLE(ready,200)
                  Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
                  === Platform ===
                  Last reset 00:01:22 ago, cause: power up
                  Last software reset at 2019-03-12 22:17, reason: Unknown, spinning module Platform, available RAM 6320 bytes (slot 2)
                  Software reset code 0x40b0 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0042380f BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x20001eac Task 0x5754454e
                  Stack: 004450eb 004450ea 41000000 f8000000 4016afff 00000000 00000000 3e178897 3e1cd04f 41880000 3e3a3335 3e638e3a 423d19d1 00000000 476e5600 37d33333 3c113333 60000000 3fe22666 60000010 00449abb 00000001 0040607f
                  Error status: 0
                  Free file entries: 10
                  SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                  SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                  MCU temperature: min 36.7, current 37.6, max 37.6
                  Supply voltage: min 0.4, current 0.5, max 0.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: no
                  Driver 0: ok, SG min/max not available
                  Driver 1: ok, SG min/max not available
                  Driver 2: ok, SG min/max not available
                  Driver 3: ok, SG min/max not available
                  Driver 4: ok, SG min/max not available
                  Date/time: 2019-03-13 15:49:46
                  Cache data hit count 297248498
                  Slowest loop: 1.80ms; fastest: 0.06ms
                  I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0
                  === Move ===
                  Hiccups: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, FreeDm: 240, MinFreeDm: 240, MaxWait: 0ms, Underruns: 0, 0
                  Scheduled moves: 2, completed moves: 2
                  Bed compensation in use: none
                  Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
                  === Heat ===
                  Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                  === GCodes ===
                  Segments left: 0
                  Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
                  Movement lock held by null
                  http is idle in state(s) 0
                  telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                  file is idle in state(s) 0
                  serial is idle in state(s) 0
                  aux is idle in state(s) 0
                  daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                  queue is idle in state(s) 0
                  autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                  Code queue is empty.
                  === Network ===
                  Slowest loop: 175.35ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                  Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                  HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                  • WiFi -
                    Network state is running
                    WiFi module is connected to access point
                    Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                    WiFi firmware version 1.21
                    WiFi MAC address cc:50:e3:0d:27:75
                    WiFi Vcc 3.42, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                    WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 15056
                    WiFi IP address 10.44.0.21
                    WiFi signal strength -50dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                    Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti
                    last edited by

                    check the fuses if it is blown

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                    • Magnusjenundefined
                      Magnusjen @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @veti I just checked the fuses with my multimeter, they all read 24 V

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by

                        you measure a fuse by measuring the resistance across it while its out of the socket.

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                        • Magnusjenundefined
                          Magnusjen @Veti
                          last edited by Magnusjen

                          @veti Huh? But then there is no current to the fuse?

                          Edit: doh... ignore this

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                          • Magnusjenundefined
                            Magnusjen @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @veti Sorry mate, my bad... I took them out and checked them one by one and they are all fine.

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                            • Danalundefined
                              Danal @Magnusjen
                              last edited by

                              @magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range:

                              @veti Huh? But then there is no current to the fuse?

                              Correct. Measure resistance, not voltage or current. Should be zero for a good fuse.

                              In fact, measuring 24V across a fuse that is IN CIRCUIT is a strong hint that the fuse is "blown". Meaning open. Meaning no current able to pass through. If you think about a good fuse IN CIRCUIT, it should read very, very, very close to zero V 'across' the fuse, because a good fuse is not 'blocking' anything, i.e. not blown. So the 'voltage drop' across the fuse is (almost) nothing.

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                              • Danalundefined
                                Danal @Magnusjen
                                last edited by Danal

                                @magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range:

                                @veti Sorry mate, my bad... I took them out and checked them one by one and they are all fine.

                                "Good" as in "Zero Ohms"? (When out of circuit)

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                                • Magnusjenundefined
                                  Magnusjen @Danal
                                  last edited by

                                  @danal Was to slow, I took them out and looked at resistance across and they all hit zero

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                                  • Danalundefined
                                    Danal @Magnusjen
                                    last edited by

                                    @magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range:

                                    @danal Was to slow, I took them out and looked at resistance across and they all hit zero

                                    Perfect... then they are OK.

                                    Hmmm.... DWC still shows just 5V?

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                                    • Magnusjenundefined
                                      Magnusjen @Danal
                                      last edited by

                                      @danal Yes still shows 5V, I even pulled out the fans just for ease of work with the board.

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                                      • Danalundefined
                                        Danal @Magnusjen
                                        last edited by

                                        @magnusjen said in Attempt to move motors when VIN is not in range:

                                        @danal Yes still shows 5V, I even pulled out the fans just for ease of work with the board.

                                        With USB UNPLUGGED, and 24V reading across the pins on the green connector that is circled, which lights are on?

                                        0_1552492303271_dfc8a2f0-2797-4e7b-8232-174853ffa40d-image.png

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                                        • Magnusjenundefined
                                          Magnusjen @Danal
                                          last edited by

                                          @danal
                                          Power in is in the correct spot Check
                                          Power reading across reads as 24V check
                                          USB not plugged in Check
                                          Wifi Blue light check
                                          3.3V green light check
                                          5V red light check
                                          VIN blue light check
                                          Z,Y, X stop red lights check

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                                          • Danalundefined
                                            Danal
                                            last edited by

                                            Interesting....

                                            Just as a final check of inputs and fuses, take a VOLTAGE reading across the two red circles (heater E0 VIN and ground on the big green VIN itself), with USB unplugged and 24V in on.

                                            Should read 24V. Probably will. Still, with that confirmation, we can move on.

                                            0_1552492985411_Check VIN.PNG

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