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    • terabyteundefined
      terabyte
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      @dc42:

      The figure you put in config.g is the peak current per phase that the drivers will deliver to the motors.

      Thanks for the clarification. That removes any doubts.

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      • Samuel235undefined
        Samuel235
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        Awesome, thank you guys. I will be sure to get that set to the lowest i can possibly go.

        I'm pretty sure i could go quite low as i'm looking for speed out of this printer right now, quality is much more worthwhile for me on this machine. I might build a separate machine running another duet simply for speed to save me keep switch up settings and config.

        Thank you!

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          A risk of going too low is that if you get a blob or curl up on your print and the head hits it, at lower currents the motor is more likely to skip steps. Also at very low currents, the microsteps are less uniform because the detent torque becomes significant in comparison to the torque due to current. That's why I suggested a minimum of 50% of rated current.

          The motors on my delta are rated at 1.68A and I run them at 1.0A which is about 60%. The heat generation increases with the square of the current, so at 1A they only generate 35% as much heat as they would at full current.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman
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            @Samuel235:

            I might build a separate machine running another duet simply for speed to save me keep switch up settings and config.

            Thank you!

            That sounds a bit extreme. Don't forget that just about anything that goes in you config.g can be overridden. So, for example if you wanted to increase the motor currents in order to be able to print a particular item faster, you can change them in the start g-code of you slicer (and put them back to "normal" in the end g-code). I do a similar thing with my homing files but in this case I lower them at the start in order to limit potential damage in the (unlikely) event of an end stop not triggering, then put them back up at the end of the homing file. Be aware also that you can use the "I" parameter in your M906 command to set the motor idle factor. I run my 2.0 Amp steppers at 1.8 amps for printing (because I have a big heavy hot end to throw around) but lower this to 20% when the motors are idle which is more than sufficient for my machine.

            HTH

            Ian
            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            • Dougal1957undefined
              Dougal1957
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              Better may be to have a pair of macros a high speed one and a low speed one rather than mess with the Slicer settings each time mind having said that you'd need to anyway to tell the slicer to speed up.

              Beauty of S3D is that you can set up different profiles/processes for just this?

              Doug

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman
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                Hi Doug,

                You could do it all with a macro - just add an M220 command to increase the overall speed. That's a bit crude though as you'd probably want to keep things like bridge speed, small perimeters and gap fill quite low. In this respect, Slic3R will do the same as S3D. You'd just put the motor currents in the Start and End gcode section of your printer then click Save As and call it "MyPrinterHighCurrent" or some such. Then in "Print settings" change the speeds but selectively rather than globally the do a save as "Fast" or some such. So, you can easily toggle between standard and high current printer versions and also standard and fast speed.

                Ian

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • Dougal1957undefined
                  Dougal1957
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                  There is always more than one way to skin a cat as they say lol

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman
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                    @Dougal1957:

                    There is always more than one way to skin a cat as they say lol

                    Totally agree, and the best way to skin a cat varies from individual to individual depending on what tools they have available and how familiar they are with those tools.

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • Dougal1957undefined
                      Dougal1957
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                      Exactly?

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                      • Kenyaundefined
                        Kenya
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                        Hi everyone,

                        In the recommendations they say we should use motors with rated current of at least 1.2A. Why ? What if I use a motor with lower rated current ?
                        And what change when I run the motor with lower or higher current ?
                        Thanks

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          If you use a motor with a lower rated current, then unless it is a very short motor it will have high inductance, and that will limit the maximum available movement speed.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • kenblu24undefined
                            kenblu24
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                            What about stallguard on the duet wifi? If M906 sets the maximum allowed current, then what determines the normal operating current?

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              M906 does set the normal operating current.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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