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    zapta
    last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 23:46

    I am getting very good results with this crimper https://www.amazon.com/s?k=B078WNZ9FW

    It's handle is more comfortable and was able to get better crimps than with Engineer's PA-09/20/21.

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      gnydick @zapta
      last edited by 2 Apr 2019, 07:12

      @zapta I'll check it out!

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        zapta @gnydick
        last edited by zapta 4 Feb 2019, 17:10 2 Apr 2019, 17:06

        @gnydick, I am using the 1.3 slot for crimping the conductor and 1.9 slot for crimping the insulation.

        Before you insert the two wings into a slot to crimp, use the tip of the tool to press the wings to become parallel.

        One advantage over the Engineer is that when you crimp the conductors, at one point the two wings collapse at once which makes a satisfying click that indicates that you are done. With the Engineer the crimping was more gradual, the more you press the tighter it crimps. (this is my experience, YMMV)

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          gnydick @zapta
          last edited by 3 Apr 2019, 03:00

          @zapta thank you!

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            A Former User
            last edited by 3 Apr 2019, 04:30

            The gradual crimping by the Engineer tool is what makes it so much more flexible, it can give you a good crimp for almost any wire size with some practice.

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              cookie
              last edited by 17 Apr 2019, 14:19

              Hello,

              I’ve ordered this crimping tools, the set come with 11 head, for my JST needed: http://s.aliexpress.com/3eu6rY3E

              Is this kind of tool also works with Duet’s Molex kk or I’ve to get specific one?

              Thanks,
              Cookie

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                dc42 administrators @cookie
                last edited by dc42 17 Apr 2019, 14:36

                @cookie said in Crimping tool?:

                Hello,

                I’ve ordered this crimping tools, the set come with 11 head, for my JST needed: http://s.aliexpress.com/3eu6rY3E

                Is this kind of tool also works with Duet’s Molex kk or I’ve to get specific one?

                That crimping tool looks very versatile if you get the multi-jaw kit, however the jaws for JST or Molex crimp terminals are the SN-2 which it says cover 13 to 23AWG. It's not uncommon to use 26AWG, and some devices are supplied with 28AWG wires.

                A popular ratchet crimping tool for Molex connectors is HT225D which is readily available in many countries. it will probably work on JST connectors too, but it doesn't do ferrules.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                  A Former User @cookie
                  last edited by 17 Apr 2019, 15:10

                  @cookie said in Crimping tool?:

                  Hello,

                  I’ve ordered this crimping tools, the set come with 11 head, for my JST needed: http://s.aliexpress.com/3eu6rY3E

                  Is this kind of tool also works with Duet’s Molex kk or I’ve to get specific one?

                  Thanks,
                  Cookie

                  I have one of those, and while nice, I find it far too bulky to allow you to make decent crimps on smaller gauge wire you end up not being able to control the bulk and cant see what you are doing very well.

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                    cookie @dc42
                    last edited by 17 Apr 2019, 16:58

                    @dc42 Thanks. Yes, seem like at least thermistor wires are smaller. Also, like Calvinx said .. the head seem to be too thick to work with small wires. Then, this set are for other jobs .. mostly.

                    So, I’m going to order another one for small wires because this tool should last very long and worth buying, but HT-225D aren’t available in my region. There aren’t so many options with good reviews I could get. So, I’ve narrow down to these two:

                    1.) Iwiss SN-01BM $21.5 (my region) got a very good review from buyers.

                    2.) Iwiss 2820M $24 (my region), as suggested in comments above that could works.

                    Any idea Which one seem to provide better result or easier (I’m quite new to wiring) ?

                    Thanks, Cookie

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                      frank26080115
                      last edited by 17 Apr 2019, 17:33

                      I use SN-01BM all the time. The die seems very nicely made, should last forever.

                      I prefer the SN-01BM over the 2820M because it crimps both the conducting end and the insulation end in one go. I'm pretty good at using it, stripping the right amount and positioning the wire correctly, so it's not a problem not being able to see into it.

                      Because it does everything in one single action, you can't squeeze too tight and destroy the entire crimp. That's another advantage of the SN-01BM over 2820M.

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                        gnydick
                        last edited by 18 Apr 2019, 00:23

                        the main problem I was having with my iwiss set is that the jaws are so wide, I couldn't wrangle the little parts together because I couldn't see what I was doing. That kit with all of the interchangeable jaws looks like it'd have the same issue.

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                          zapta @A Former User
                          last edited by 18 Apr 2019, 01:56

                          @bearer said in Crimping tool?:

                          The gradual crimping by the Engineer tool is what makes it so much more flexible,

                          This is also their down side, not providing consistent results as a good, and often expensive, ratchet crimper.

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                            frank26080115 @gnydick
                            last edited by 18 Apr 2019, 02:58

                            @gnydick said in Crimping tool?:

                            the main problem I was having with my iwiss set is that the jaws are so wide, I couldn't wrangle the little parts together because I couldn't see what I was doing. That kit with all of the interchangeable jaws looks like it'd have the same issue.

                            the jaws need to be that wide though, they are as wide as the crimps are

                            if you want to cheat, try this

                            • strip the wire to the right length
                            • put the wire into the crimp
                            • using your fingernails, squeeze the insulating end of the crimp so that it is gripping the insulation
                            • now when you insert the crimp into the crimper, the wire won't move around, making it easy

                            another tip is that some crimps come on reels, you might be inclined to clip it off of the reel first. DON'T! Cut the reel but keep that little tab attached to the crimp while you crimp, then cut off the tab.

                            and finally, do not: insert crimp into crimper, squeeze crimper half way, insert wire. Because that's how you end up not being able to see anything.

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                              DallasH
                              last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 22:22

                              after buying several amazon crimpers and having poor results I found this crimper, works fantastic! thought I would share.

                              https://mod-one.com/mdpc-x-crimp-tool-ctx3/

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                                fcwilt
                                last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 23:09

                                PA-09? Really?

                                This is my tool of choice:

                                https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OMM4YUY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                                Well made, works great, crimps both wire and insulation at the same time, as the universe intended.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  Veti
                                  last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 05:50

                                  @fcwilt said in Crimping tool?:

                                  PA-09? Really?

                                  whats your problem with the PA-09?

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                                    fcwilt @Veti
                                    last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 06:07

                                    @veti said in Crimping tool?:

                                    @fcwilt said in Crimping tool?:

                                    PA-09? Really?

                                    whats your problem with the PA-09?

                                    Well it is does not insure you complete the crimp, as does a tool with a ratchet.

                                    It does not have replaceable/interchangeable "jaws".

                                    It requires you to make two crimps rather than one.

                                    And, at $39, it costs way too much for a tool as simple as it is.

                                    The one I use and referenced is $23, which is nearly half the price of the PA-09 and has all of the features I mentioned that that PA-09 does not have.

                                    To each their own but paying more for an inferior tool seems curious to me.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      A Former User @fcwilt
                                      last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 06:39

                                      @fcwilt said in Crimping tool?:

                                      @veti said in Crimping tool?:

                                      @fcwilt said in Crimping tool?:

                                      PA-09? Really?

                                      whats your problem with the PA-09?

                                      Well it is does not insure you complete the crimp, as does a tool with a ratchet.

                                      It does not have replaceable/interchangeable "jaws".

                                      It requires you to make two crimps rather than one.

                                      And, at $39, it costs way too much for a tool as simple as it is.

                                      The one I use and referenced is $23, which is nearly half the price of the PA-09 and has all of the features I mentioned that that PA-09 does not have.

                                      To each their own but paying more for an inferior tool seems curious to me.

                                      Frederick

                                      I'm sorry but that's just not the case, the PA09 if used correctly by someone who knows what they are doing produces perfect crimps...

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                                        fcwilt @A Former User
                                        last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 06:43

                                        @calvinx said in Crimping tool?:

                                        @fcwilt said in Crimping tool?:

                                        @veti said in Crimping tool?:

                                        @fcwilt said in Crimping tool?:

                                        PA-09? Really?

                                        whats your problem with the PA-09?

                                        Well it is does not insure you complete the crimp, as does a tool with a ratchet.

                                        It does not have replaceable/interchangeable "jaws".

                                        It requires you to make two crimps rather than one.

                                        And, at $39, it costs way too much for a tool as simple as it is.

                                        The one I use and referenced is $23, which is nearly half the price of the PA-09 and has all of the features I mentioned that that PA-09 does not have.

                                        To each their own but paying more for an inferior tool seems curious to me.

                                        Frederick

                                        I'm sorry but that's just not the case, the PA09 if used correctly by someone who knows what they are doing produces perfect crimps...

                                        Of course you can make good crimps with it. I could make good crimps with a pair of needle nose pliers if I had to. I've been in the industry for more years than I care to remember.

                                        But why pay more for a tool that does less?

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          Veti
                                          last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 07:00

                                          i have both the mdpc crimp tool and the pa-09.
                                          I find that i use the pa-09 far more often.

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