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    • supernovaeundefined
      supernovae
      last edited by supernovae

      First run of bed gave this:
      Leadscrew adjustments made: 2.098 -1.566, points used 2, deviation before 1.188 after 0.000

      Then 2nd run gave this:

      Leadscrew adjustments made: 2.141 -1.603, points used 2, deviation before 1.213 after 0.000

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      • supernovaeundefined
        supernovae
        last edited by

        0_1556674134771_Annotation 2019-04-30 202821.png

        That is what i get after running the auto bed compensation and then running a run mesh grid compensation

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        • supernovaeundefined
          supernovae
          last edited by

          is the X/Y/Z arrows 0,0 or is that at the full 300/300 corner? not sure what the perspective of the image is 🙂

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            @supernovae said in Need help understand dual Z auto bed compensation:

            G31 X0 Y0 ; don't want any probe offset for this

            Why don't you want probe offsets for this? X0 Y0 would be your nozzle. The BlTouch is not your nozzle. You need to tell the system where the probe is in relation to the nozzle. Hence the offset.

            Your video shows you probing no where close to your leadscrews. You want to probe with the BLtouch as close as possible. If it's really out of level you may need to rerun it a few times until the adjustments made barely change anymore. Then you'll probably want to rehome Z once with the probe in the center of the bed to re-establish your Z0 point. Then run mesh grid compensation.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Have you seen this? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors

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              • supernovaeundefined
                supernovae @Phaedrux
                last edited by supernovae

                @phaedrux

                That G31 was in the file I used to start with, i didn't put that mention in there 🙂

                So it should probe near the lead screws - i'm not sure why its probing the exact opposite.

                I did a manual bed level and managed to get a test cube done to confirm some setup. Maybe after some sleep the setup for this dual z level will click - i obviously have something backwards since it is doing the probe like its rotated 90 degrees on wrong x/y

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  The arrows on the mesh compensation image indicate 0,0 and that should be the front left of the bed in order for the coordinates to make sense.

                  Are you sure you have your motors turning the right way?

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                  • supernovaeundefined
                    supernovae
                    last edited by

                    I can home to 0,0 and it does what I expect. I have homing set to the front left and the motors go there when i Home all. Using the head movement functions I see correct movements when i advance X/Y/Z

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                    • supernovaeundefined
                      supernovae
                      last edited by

                      It was a mirrored configuration... once i printed my test cube i saw it was mirrored... did the cable swap/flip a zillion times until i got it working again. 0,0 homes correctly, xyz move and now my dual z is near the lead screws. I think i just needed to sleep on it 😄 thanks for the help!!

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                        Glad you got it sorted out.

                        The coreXY setup guide describes a motor test you can do to ensure things are moving correctly. Also, as you realized, just because it homes to the right place doesn't mean it's not mirrored, since you're able to correct for the mixup by specifying the direction of homing in your files.

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCoreXYPrinter#Section_Movement_section

                        For a CoreXY or H-Bot machine, RepRapFirmware assumes that the motor connected to the X motor output moves the head in the +X and +Y directions when it runs forwards, and that the Y motor moves the head in +X and -Y directions when it runs forwards. [Note: firmware 1.18 and earlier assumes that the motor connected to the Y motor output moves the head in the -X and +Y directions when it runs forwards]. So you can start with these M569 commands in config.g:

                        M569 P0 S0 ; X motor runs forwards
                        M569 P1 S0 ; Y motor runs forwards
                        Then test for the correct X motor movement by sending these commands from the console:

                        G91
                        G1 S2 X10 F3000
                        If the head moves diagonally in the +X and +Y directions, all is well. If it moves in the -X and -Y directions, change the S parameter to S1 in the M569 P0 command. If it moves towards +X and -Y, or towards -X and +Y, turn the power off and swap the X and Y motor connections.

                        When you have the X motor moving correctly, test the Y motor by sending from the console:

                        G91
                        G1 S2 Y10 F3000
                        For firmware 1.19 and later: If the head moves diagonally in the +X and -Y directions, all is well. If it moves in the -X and +Y directions, change the S parameter in the M569 P1 command to S1.

                        For firmware 1.18 and earlier: If the head moves diagonally in the -X and +Y directions, all is well. If it moves in the +X and -Y directions, change the S parameter in the M569 P1 command to S1.

                        Important: make sure that you have chosen a right-hand axis system. That is, looking down on the printer the +Y direction should be 90 degrees anticlockwise from the +X direction. If instead it is 90 degrees clockwise, you have a left-hand axis system, which will give you mirror-image prints.

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