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    palmhoej
    last edited by 19 May 2019, 13:10

    I have fitted my two printers (Creality CR-10 S5 & Tronxy X5s) with a BL Touch censor and Duet 2 Wifi. Same story for both printers, but i will only give example from one:

    When i am running the following script:

    M401
    G30 P0 X250 Y250 Z-9999
    ...... (repeat 10x times probing in the same spot)......
    G30 P09 X250 Y250 Z-9999 s1

    i get the following result:
    G32 bed probe heights: -0.275 -0.245 -0.130 -0.255 -0.265 -0.248 -0.255 -0.250 -0.220 -0.287, mean -0.243, deviation from mean 0.041

    Is this acceptable? 0.16mm difference between the outliers is almost half the height of one filament layer.

    Following settings have been used:

    ; Z-Probe
    M574 Z1 S2 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
    M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
    M558 P9 H5 F80 T2000 ; Set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
    G31 P500 X-45 Y-5 Z0.35 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
    M557 X15:195 Y15:195 S40 ; Define mesh grid

    Its the same story for the other printer, which makes me think that i am doing something wrong.

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      oliof
      last edited by 19 May 2019, 13:19

      You could try reduing the dive speed to see if the results improve.

      M558 P9 H5 F80 T1000

      <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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        palmhoej
        last edited by 19 May 2019, 14:22

        I halfed it once, with no result, but just for the fun of it, i did it again:

        G32 bed probe heights: 0.178 0.280 0.183 0.288 0.155 0.207 0.293 0.183 0.288 0.165, mean 0.222, deviation from mean 0.055

        A little bit better, but not acceptable: 0,123mm between the max and minimum. And know it is so slow that you barely can see it moving.

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          dc42 administrators
          last edited by 19 May 2019, 14:26

          Are you probing with heaters on? If so, adding the B1 parameter in your M558 command in config.g may help.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            palmhoej
            last edited by 19 May 2019, 14:44

            No heaters or hotends are turned on. But i added the B1 parameter and it did not help (it actually got worse, but i think thats just random error in the diviation, not because i added the B1):

            G32 bed probe heights: 0.115 0.202 0.322 0.117 0.122 0.210 0.322 0.217 0.317 0.190, mean 0.214, deviation from mean 0.079

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              MortarArt
              last edited by 19 May 2019, 14:56

              Complete side point here, but what I currently do with my printers, because I have constant repeatability issues, is I edit the gcode to delete re-homing for prints, especially when printing the same part repeatedly.

              I've considered seeing if I can figure out a way to have a check box in the web UI to enable / disable re-homing when pressing the "print another" button.

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                palmhoej
                last edited by 19 May 2019, 15:06

                The problem is i have a CR-10 S5, which means it can print 500x500mm prints... but it is impossible to get such a big surface flat enough, so i need the bed mesh to compensate for this (or tell me where i need to level the surface).

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                  Veti
                  last edited by 19 May 2019, 17:59

                  is it a clone? because they are less accurate.

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                    gavatron3000
                    last edited by 20 May 2019, 00:37

                    My genuine smart bltouch has repeatability below 0.03. I had some issues which I found to be my z jerk was too high. I assume was during the z axis retract move causing it for me.

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                      3Dreamer @palmhoej
                      last edited by 1 Jul 2019, 08:44

                      @palmhoej Hi, was there any progress? I've the same problem, and I've made some test about that:
                      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/11093/bltouch-m558-accuracy-test-strange-behaviour

                      3D Printing new Applications Researcher.

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