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    • droftartsundefined
      droftarts administrators @A Former User
      last edited by

      @bearer Actually, it's already been updated and M911 in config.g has double quotes around it, but you have to clear cache to make your browser use the latest version. From Christian:

      Check for version 2.0.1
      Can be seen on the start page. If it displays v2.0.0, clear your browser cache

      And my mistake, the network code hasn't been moved back to the beginning yet.

      Ian

      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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      • Cherno Alphaundefined
        Cherno Alpha
        last edited by

        The Duet has arrived, I am looking at a piezo bed levelling system for this, is it fiddly to set up and is it reliable? Alternatively what is the most user friendly bed levelling system? The bed is glass.

        Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @Cherno Alpha
          last edited by

          @Cherno-Alpha said in 3DP1000 Duet Ethernet Conversion:

          what is the most user friendly bed levelling system?

          Therein lies the rub. They're all pretty picky in some way or another. Pick your poison.

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_a_Z_probe

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • Cherno Alphaundefined
            Cherno Alpha @nhof
            last edited by

            @nhof Just looked at the expansion board and I need to get one, problem is the Australian reps dont have any at all so will have to get them from overseas. Yay for freight charges.

            Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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            • Cherno Alphaundefined
              Cherno Alpha
              last edited by

              Ok, so I have installed the duet ethernet, and the expansion board to go with it.

              The problem that I am encountering at the moment is with the Z axis.

              X and Y home and operate perfectly.

              Z is the issue.

              We have been able to get Z to home. Once home, if you press + 5mm it does not operate. If I go - 5mm it tries to drive the hotend through the printer.
              The Z dive height has been set to 0.

              To continue testing we have to manually wind the Z axis to try something new.

              Any suggestions to try would be great.

              Thanks,
              Brad

              Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957
                last edited by

                try posting your config.g and homing files then we can all have a look and see if there is anything obvious.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Cherno Alpha
                  last edited by

                  @Cherno-Alpha said in 3DP1000 Duet Ethernet Conversion:

                  The Z dive height has been set to 0.

                  Why would you set it to 0?

                  Have you seen this? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCartesianPrinter#Section_Homing_Z

                  We'd need to see your config and homing files.

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                  • Cherno Alphaundefined
                    Cherno Alpha
                    last edited by

                    @Dougal1957 , @Phaedrux
                    Will post the data below,

                    We set it to 0 after the first time we were setting the other axes it tried to drive it down. It is only at 0 till we have it sorted.

                    Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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                    • Cherno Alphaundefined
                      Cherno Alpha
                      last edited by

                      Z HOME
                      ; homez.g
                      ; called to home the Z axis
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.4 on Tue Sep 17 2019 17:44:51 GMT+1000 (Australian Eastern Standard Time)
                      G91 ; relative positioning
                      G1 Z0 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      G1 S1 Z-505 F3600 ; move Z down until the endstop is triggered
                      G92 Z0 ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)

                      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                      ;G91 ; relative positioning
                      ;G1 S2 Z0 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      ;G90 ; absolute positioning

                      Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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                      • Cherno Alphaundefined
                        Cherno Alpha
                        last edited by

                        CONFIG FILE

                        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 2.03)
                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                        ;
                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.4 on Tue Sep 17 2019 17:44:50 GMT+1000 (Australian Eastern Standard Time)

                        ; General preferences
                        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                        M550 P"3DP Duet" ; set printer name

                        ; Network
                        M552 P192.168.1.14 S1 ; enable network and set IP address
                        M553 P255.255.255.0 ; set netmask
                        M554 P192.168.1.1 ; set gateway
                        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                        M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                        M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                        ; Drives
                        M569 P5 S1 ; physical drive 5 goes forwards
                        M569 P6 S0 ; physical drive 6 goes backwards
                        M569 P7 S1 ; physical drive 7 goes forwards
                        M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                        M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
                        M584 X5 Y6 Z7 E3:4 ; set drive mapping
                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                        M92 X128.00 Y128.00 Z1600.00 E420.00:420.00 ; set steps per mm
                        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z60.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z5.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                        ; Axis Limits
                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                        M208 X1000 Y1000 Z500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                        ; Endstops
                        M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S0 ; set active low and disabled endstops

                        ; Z-Probe
                        M558 P0 H0 F120 T6000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                        M557 X100:800 Y100:800 S200 ; define mesh grid

                        ; Heaters
                        M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                        M143 H0 S140 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 140C
                        M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                        M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                        M305 P2 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                        M143 H2 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

                        ; Fans
                        M106 P0 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                        M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H2 T45 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                        ; Tools
                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                        M563 P1 D1 H2 F0 ; define tool 1
                        G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                        G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                        ; Custom settings are not defined

                        Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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                        • Cherno Alphaundefined
                          Cherno Alpha
                          last edited by

                          HOME X
                          This Axis is functioning correctly, so I thought I would also post this as well just to provide further information.

                          ; homex.g
                          ; called to home the X axis
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.4 on Tue Sep 17 2019 17:44:50 GMT+1000 (Australian Eastern Standard Time)
                          G91 ; relative positioning
                          G1 Z0 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                          G1 S1 X-1005 F3600 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          G1 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                          G1 S1 X-1005 F300 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                          G1 Z0 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
                          G90 ; absolute positioning

                          Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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                          • nhofundefined
                            nhof
                            last edited by

                            Does Z axis travel correctly normally?

                            Note that the motors probably have a minimum pulse width of 3us, so you may have to guarantee this in order for the motors to run properly at higher step rates.

                            Something like:

                            M569 P5 S1 T3
                            M569 P6 S1 T3
                            M569 P6 S1 T3
                            

                            Depending on what machine you have the motors will either be these: https://www.applied-motion.com/sites/default/files/hardware-manuals/STM23R Hardware Manual 920-0056D.pdf

                            or these: https://www.applied-motion.com/sites/default/files/hardware-manuals/TSM23P-Hardware Manual_920-0083B.pdf

                            Just look at the connectors.

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                            • Cherno Alphaundefined
                              Cherno Alpha @nhof
                              last edited by

                              @nhof
                              Thanks for the advice. I will have a look and test to see how that goes.

                              Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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                              • Cherno Alphaundefined
                                Cherno Alpha
                                last edited by

                                A Bit of an update.

                                After getting my mate to spend way to much time on it troubleshooting the problematic Z axis issue, he decided to make the nema 23s just motors instead of integrated steppers. Not long after I had a fully functioning Z axis. The X and Y axes are still the integrated stepper and work well.

                                Printer is calibrated on the XYZ axes. Tested the extruder side as well all functioning. Only thing really left to do is put the bondtech on it and the usual bed calibrations etc. Then we are off and printing.

                                Thanks for all the assistance in getting this up and running.

                                Brad

                                Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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                                • Cherno Alphaundefined
                                  Cherno Alpha
                                  last edited by

                                  Some good news but also some bad news.

                                  Everything is working so to speak. Ran the first print, and I am getting layer shift on the X and Y axis on every layer. Different prints different direction.
                                  I am using Ideamaker as the slicer, I do not think this is the issue, but it is information.

                                  The X and Y axis are still controlled by the integrated steppers.
                                  As the print continues it gets progressively worse.

                                  See below for the config file.

                                  ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 2.03)
                                  ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.4 on Tue Sep 24 2019 14:17:15 GMT+1000 (Australian Eastern Standard Time)

                                  ; General preferences
                                  G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                  M550 P"Unicorns are not Fucking Real" ; set printer name

                                  ; Network
                                  M552 P192.168.1.14 S1 ; enable network and set IP address
                                  M553 P255.255.255.0 ; set netmask
                                  M554 P192.168.1.1 ; set gateway
                                  M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                                  M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                                  M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P5 S1 ; physical drive 5 goes forwards
                                  M569 P6 S0 ; physical drive 6 goes backwards
                                  M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                                  M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                  M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
                                  M584 X5 Y6 Z2 E3:4 ; set drive mapping
                                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                  M92 X128.25 Y128.25 Z1600.00 E425.00:425.00 ; set steps per mm
                                  M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z300.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z5.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1600 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                  ; Axis Limits
                                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                  M208 X1000 Y1000 Z500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                  ; Endstops
                                  M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S0 ; set active low and disabled endstops

                                  ; Z-Probe
                                  M558 P0 H2 F120 T6000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                  M557 X100:800 Y100:800 S200 ; define mesh grid

                                  ; Heaters
                                  M140 H-1 ; disable heated bed
                                  M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                  M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                  M305 P2 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                                  M143 H2 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

                                  ; Fans
                                  M106 P0 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                  M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H2 T45 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                  M563 P1 D1 H2 F0 ; define tool 1
                                  G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                                  G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                  ; Custom settings are not defined

                                  Ultimaker 2, Raise3d N2 Plus, 3DP1000, Creaform Go!Scan 50, Creaform Handyscan700

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @Cherno Alpha
                                    last edited by

                                    @Cherno-Alpha said in 3DP1000 Duet Ethernet Conversion:

                                    M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1600 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                                    You should set your motor currents to be around 85% of the rated current for the motor.

                                    If it's already in that range I would ask if the printer is over extruding causing the nozzle to drag excessively?

                                    If that's not the case I would ask if the X and Y mechanism slides freely by hand with no linkage to the motors? Free of binding, rough travel, etc?

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                                    • Antipastaundefined
                                      Antipasta
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi im the silly cat playing with this meany,
                                      so the current for the x and y axis is determined by the dip switches on the driver on the back of the steppers, (which i will check)
                                      The layer shift is every layer and can be either the x or y or both and normally one direction or the other., never a zig zag effect .. always in one direction. So a wall would come out at like 30deg from the bed, if it could print in air.
                                      The lead screws are a helical type with about 25mm per revolution (both axises) Z is a std 2mm lead screw, as by the config file the steps are only 128.25 i think this is due to the large pitch of 25mm.
                                      The layer shift is approx 2mm each shift this seems consistant each layer.
                                      So every layer it would seem it loses steps or gains steps.
                                      This is where it gets confusing, as if it were consistant in a direction it would make more sense.
                                      The X and Y are driven from the expansion board using step+ dir+ and ground.
                                      We are getting the correct movement when manually joging the gantry around ie: 500mm = 500mm
                                      I have not changed any dip switches on the stepper/drivers from when it was driven from the ramps1.4 board running marlin.
                                      The other thing im not 100% on was the micro stepping being now 32bit and the duets config lets you choose the micro step, could it be a conflict between the config and the drivers on the stepper motors, being micro stepped differently. I know micro stepping has some dips switches settings on the drivers on the steppers.

                                      One thing i have noticed, these steppers X and Y are (by the spec sheet) seem to be 5amp capable, they are being powered by a 48volt psu. Where the Duet2 is being powered by a 24volt psu, heat bed is a 240v unit ( it is 1000x1000)
                                      As a last resort i can remove the inbuilt driver from the steppers and just use the Duet drivers but im not sure the Duet would drive 3 additional steppers at 2.4 amps each with that 25mm pitch lead screw.

                                      Anyway any help ideas are greatfully accepted.

                                      Troy

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                                      • nhofundefined
                                        nhof
                                        last edited by nhof

                                        @Antipasta @Cherno-Alpha This is almost certainly a step or dir timing issue.

                                        Basically what is happening (most likely) is the dir signal from the board is flipping, but the next few step signals don't get applied in the correct direction, so over time it results in a gradual shift.

                                        The way to fix it is the M569 command as my post above. Use the T parameter to guarantee dir setup and hold timings. From the data sheet it looks like the step pulse width should be 0.25us which is ok, but the dir timing signal is probably off (spec sheet doesn't provide these values).

                                        So do something like this for all the M569 commands connected to external drivers
                                        M569 Pn Sn T1:1:5:5 ; 1us pulse width, 1us interval, 5us dir setup, 5 us dir hold

                                        This should make sure that when the DIR line changes, the steps are counted in the proper direction. If it doesn't work at first, increase from 5 to 10 or 20 or something until it fixed the issue.

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                                        • 87ninefiveoneundefined
                                          87ninefiveone
                                          last edited by

                                          I know this is an old topic, but I just wanted to reply in regards to how 3DP sets these machines up using a Duet board from the factory in case anyone needs the info in the future.

                                          3DP uses the Duet Expansion Breakout Board to command the X, Y and Z axes while power to the servo motors is provided by an external source. For the TSM23P servo motors they use a 2us minimum pulse width (M569 Pnnn T2), but they do not specify a T parameter in the stock firmware. They also specify using x16 microstepping with interpolation for all drives (M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1) although I'm not sure what tuning the servo motors might need to accept that as we purchased ours from the factory with a Duet board.

                                          I'll also add that if you use the firmware available on their website (which is v1.19.2) there are a lot of holes in the stock configuration where they just didn't bother to set things up correctly so make sure you double check your settings.

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                                          • jzagajaundefined
                                            jzagaja
                                            last edited by

                                            Anyone use 3p1000 servo with Taurino Power/RAMPS?

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