feedrate confusions

georgepaul

@wilriker This logic makes sense because i tried, G1 E100:50:50:100 F100 and it took 3 minutes

deckingman

@georgepaul said in feedrate confusions:

@wilriker
That's what I thought too.. so i tried with X and Y axis also,

G1 X100 E100 F100 ;the move took 1minute
G1 Y100 E100 F100 ;the move took 1minute
G1 X100 Y100 E100 F100 ;the move took 1minute 25 seconds

That looks fine. The first command means move the X axis 100mm at a feedrate of 100mm/minute while extruding 100mm of filament. The second command is the same but for the Y axis. The third command means move in both the X and Y directions by 100mm. That's a diagonal move so the length of that diagonal is longer (by the square root of 2 so about 1.4 times longer). 60 seconds x 1.4 is about 84 seconds so near enough 1 minute and 25.

Edit. Be careful with feedrate. If you do G1 F50 then G1 X100 F100, the move will start at 50mm/minute and end at 100mm/minute so it will ramp up to speed over that move and thus take longer. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_G0_G1_Move

wilriker

@deckingman said in feedrate confusions:

@georgepaul said in feedrate confusions:
Edit. Be careful with feedrate. If you do G1 F50 then G1 X100 F100, the move will start at 50mm/minute and end at 100mm/minute so it will ramp up to speed over that move and thus take longer. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_G0_G1_Move

Hi Ian,
I don't think your interpretation of the wiki is correct here. What the section you refer to means is that a given feedrate parameter is sticky (i.e. does not have to be repeated) until the next one is seen. The first example shows that by first setting a feedrate and then a movement without an explicit feedrate reusing the previously set one. The second example basically states that the first set feedrate is immediately overwritten by the one given in the move command. But it does not bring that across very well.

I also just tested it by running

G1 F10
G1 X100 F3000

and it does not accelerate all the way from 10 to 3000mm/min but accelerates (with my 3000mm/s²) to 3000mm/min immediately.

deckingman

@wilriker I have to admit that I haven't tested it myself but from the wiki quote ...........

"
G1 F1500
G1 X50 Y25.3 E22.4 F3000

However, in the above example, we set a feedrate of 1500mm/minute on line 1, then do the move described above accelerating to a feedrate of 3000 mm/minute as it does so. The extrusion will accelerate along with the X and Y movement, so everything stays synchronized."

and ...........

"Feedrate is treated as simply another variable (like X, Y, Z, and E) to be linearly interpolated".

end of quote.

Maybe it only acts does the linear interpolation of feedrate if it's a print move which includes extrusion ?? My printer is still in bits so I can't test it myself.

georgepaul

@deckingman yes, this is perfect... now i get it.. let me do some other tests and see what i can post here