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    • NL61undefined
      NL61
      last edited by

      Hi everybody,
      This is Norbert from Germany and I hope, anybody can help me. I've seen others have similar problems but nothing helped me.
      My Board is Duet ethernet with firmware 2.04. I am using inductive NPN sensors for x,y and z axis.
      The motors are running into the correct directions. Z-Axis is working fine.
      When I push the x- and y-axis towards the sensors the LED on the Board are illuminating and M119 says X and Y are in Home position. If I push it away it says they are not stopped.
      When I try to home the Axis the Steppers don't stop. Here are my homing files:

      homex:

      G91 ; relative positioning
      G1 H2 Z5 F9000 ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 H1 X-395 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
      G1 H2 X5 F9000 ; go back a few mm
      G1 H1 X-395 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
      G1 H2 Z-5 F9000 ; lower Z again
      G90 ; absolute positioning

      homey:

      G91 ; relative positioning
      G1 H2 Z5 F9000 ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 H1 Y-295 F1800 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
      G1 H2 Y5 F9000 ; go back a few mm
      G1 H1 Y-295 F360 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
      G1 H2 Z-5 F9000 ; lower Z again
      G90 ; absolute positioning

      homez (Which works)
      G91 ; relative mode
      G1 S1 Z105 F300 ; move Z towards the switch until it triggers
      G1 S2 Z-5 F100 ; move Z back 5mm
      G1 S1 Z10 F100 ; move Z slowly towards the switch until it triggers
      G90 ; back to absolute mode

      And config.g

      M669 K1 ; switch to CoreXY mode

      ; Network
      M552 S1 P172.21.163.110 ; enable network
      M553 P255.255.255.0
      M554 P 172.21.163.2

      M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
      M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X32.00 Y32.00 Z640.00 E460.00 ; set steps per mm
      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1600 Y1600 Z500 E500 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
      M208 X390 Y290 Z100 S0 ; set axis maxima

      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 Y1 Z2 S0 ; set active high endstops

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman @NL61
        last edited by

        @NL61 I'm not familiar with NPN sensor but maybe there is some latency in the way they trigger? I note that your home Z uses much lower feed rate than X or Y so try reducing the feedrate for X and Y and see if that helps.

        The other thing I note is that you use a feedrate of 9000 mm/sec for initial your Z axis moves which is very fast for a Z axis. I doubt that would cause a problem with XY homing but you ought to reduce that speed.

        Ian
        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        • NL61undefined
          NL61 @deckingman
          last edited by

          @deckingman
          thanks for your answer, I reduced the speed but this was not the problem. It did not help.

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            @NL61 said in H-Bot Endstop problem:

            When I push the x- and y-axis towards the sensors the LED on the Board are illuminating and M119 says X and Y are in Home position. If I push it away it says they are not stopped.

            did you make sure that x and y endstops are not swapped.

            i.e if you trigger the endstop and check with m119 only the x is at stopped

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            • NL61undefined
              NL61 @Veti
              last edited by

              @Veti
              thank you, I tried this. If I trigger x, only x is stopped

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                Please very that you are running 2.04. because the commands in your homing file contain statements that would not cause a stop in previous versions.

                post the output of M115

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                • NL61undefined
                  NL61 @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Veti
                  M115
                  FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.04 ELECTRONICS: Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-11-01b1

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                  • droftartsundefined
                    droftarts administrators
                    last edited by

                    Don't use G1 H2 ... moves in your home.g files. These make the motors move individually, which you don't want. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCoreXYPrinter#Section_Homing_files

                    Ian

                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                    • NL61undefined
                      NL61 @droftarts
                      last edited by

                      @droftarts
                      Hi Ian, thanks, I tried this out already. Always the same.
                      My homex looks like this now:

                      G91 ; relative positioning
                      G1 S2 Z5 F1800 ; lift Z relative to current position
                      G1 S1 X-395 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                      G1 S2 X5 F9000 ; go back a few mm
                      G1 S1 X-395 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                      G1 S2 Z-5 F1800 ; lower Z again
                      G90 ; absolute positioning

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by

                        this looks ok.

                        please verify that you are changing the files in the sys folder and not in the macro folder

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators
                          last edited by

                          The link to the CoreXY homing files page needs updating; better to use G1 H#..., not G1 S#..., as use of the 'S' parameter for homing is deprecated (though still works in RRF2.x); see G1.

                          You shouldn't be using H2/S2. This moves the individual motor, so the nozzle will move diagonally. Just use H1. You don't need to specify H/S on the Z moves at all, unless it's likely to be near the endstop.

                          What does it actually do during homing X? Step through the Gcode line by line (send each line via the console) and report what happens.

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • deckingmanundefined
                            deckingman @NL61
                            last edited by

                            @NL61 said in H-Bot Endstop problem:

                            Comments in bold.

                            G91 ; relative positioning - this is OK

                            G1 S2 Z5 F1800 ; lift Z relative to current position - this is OK too but you should use H2 here for the single Z motor

                            G1 S1 X-395 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass) - this is OK but again, use H instead of S

                            G1 S2 X5 F9000 ; go back a few mm - before this move, the axis has already been homed so you don't need the S2 parameter - remove it.

                            G1 S1 X-395 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass) - this is OK.

                            G1 S2 Z-5 F1800 ; lower Z again - this should be OK but use H instead of S.

                            G90 ; absolute positioning - this Ok

                            Alternatively, you could put M564 H0 at the start of the homing file and take out all the S2 or H2 parameters. Then put M564 H1 at the end.

                            Ian
                            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                            • NL61undefined
                              NL61 @deckingman
                              last edited by

                              @deckingman
                              I changed everything as you wrote. It still crashes into the frame.

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by

                                can you execute the commands from deckingman in the console one by one manually

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                                • NL61undefined
                                  NL61 @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti
                                  I did so. After G1 H1 X-395 F1800 it crashed.

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators @NL61
                                    last edited by

                                    @NL61 Do you have a probe set up in config.g? Please post your whole config.g.

                                    Ian

                                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                    • NL61undefined
                                      NL61 @droftarts
                                      last edited by

                                      @droftarts

                                      Here it is:

                                      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                      M550 P"Olli3" ; set printer name

                                      M669 K1 ; switch to CoreXY mode

                                      ; Network
                                      M552 S1 P172.21.163.110 ; enable network
                                      M553 P255.255.255.0
                                      M554 P 172.21.163.2

                                      M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                                      M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                                      M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                                      M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                                      M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                                      M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                      M92 X32.00 Y32.00 Z640.00 E460.00 ; set steps per mm
                                      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                      M906 X1600 Y1600 Z500 E500 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                      M208 X390 Y290 Z100 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                      ; Endstops
                                      M574 X1 Y1 Z2 S0 ; set active high endstops

                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                      M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                                      ; Heaters
                                      M140 H-1 ; disable heated bed
                                      M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                      M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                      ; Fans
                                      M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                      ; Tools
                                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                      ; Custom settings are not defined

                                      ; Miscellaneous
                                      M911 S20 R22 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti @NL61
                                        last edited by

                                        @NL61 said in H-Bot Endstop problem:

                                        I did so. After G1 H1 X-395 F1800 it crashed.

                                        this is VERY strange.
                                        if M119 says the endstop is triggered the G1 H1 command should stop when the endstop is triggered.

                                        The Firmware version is the correct one.

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          I agree, very strange. Typical causes of this type of problem would be:

                                          • Endstops pulling the input low enough to light the LED, but not low enough to register as a low input to the processor. But in that case, M119 wouldn't show the endstops as triggered when you test them.
                                          • X and Y endstop connections swapped
                                          • Axis movement incorrect (easy to do on a CoreXY machine), for example G1 H1 X-395 is actually moving the Y axis, or is moving X away from the endstop switch.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • NL61undefined
                                            NL61 @dc42
                                            last edited by

                                            @dc42
                                            thanks for answering,
                                            I tried M119 serveral times for each axis, it always shows if triggered or not.
                                            the endstops are not swapped and the movement goes to the correct direction.

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