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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @guycobb2
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      @guycobb2 said in Considering a Duet in my Makergear M3:

      not sure how well octoprint works with a duet, never tried it

      It works, but it misses the point of using a Duet in the first place. You lose a lot of functionality and you're still streaming gcode over the usb port.

      400+ steps per mm on the extruder seems pretty standard for a geared extruder. So I don't think that's directly the issue here. It could be the drivers used on the rambo. I'm not sure what they use though.

      It could also be mechanical as it looks a bit like belt ribbing?

      Does it show up on every print surface?

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by Phaedrux

        Also you can directly embed the photo if you link directly to the jpg

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        • Danalundefined
          Danal
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          @guycobb2 said in Considering a Duet in my Makergear M3:

          RAMBo v1.3

          Rambo uses A4982 drivers. Duet uses TMCxxxx (depending on which Duet you are talking about). This will make a HUGE difference.

          With regard to Octoprint, it is not needed, and in fact has several drawbacks, with a Duet. The Duet has its own web interface.

          And, of course, on this forum, you'll discover that Duets not only produce excellent prints, they also keep your coffee warm and improve your overall appearance. Well, maybe not the coffee thing...

          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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          • guycobb2undefined
            guycobb2
            last edited by Phaedrux

            I currently have a duet in my Artemis and like it. It has some things octoprint doesn’t that I miss and vice versa.

            Here’s another print I did to observe straight lines vs curves at different layer heights. Starting at bottom it goes 0.3->0.2->0.1->0.05 at 5mm increments.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              Considering the price of the M3 I wouldn't be very pleased with that surface finish.

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              • guycobb2undefined
                guycobb2
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                100% agree with that. I’ve been in contact with them and they seem to be trying to drill down. Either way, I’ve sent me my gcode and they printed it on their machine....looked the same. So I don’t suppose it’s my machine. I got the M3 as a second owner at a discounted price so I’m not nearly as bummed as I would’ve been at full price....but still, it wasn’t cheap. However, I really like the build of it, they’ve done a lot of things right IMO.....it’s just this one (rather important) flaw that hopefully can be remedied easily. Aside from, what I assume to be, the extrusion issue it seems to stack layers very nice.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  Well if the build quality of the machine is good, then it would be a good candidate for quality electronics.

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                  • guycobb2undefined
                    guycobb2
                    last edited by

                    So do y’all think it’s simply a limitation of the electronics or a mechanical design flaw?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      Measure the distance between peaks. Do the match the belt pitch? Do they line up regardless of the layer height? It looks like they do. That might indicate poor belt mesh on the idlers.

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                      • guycobb2undefined
                        guycobb2 @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux what’s the proper way to do that?

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Caliper. Ruler even. If you take a photo with a known scale you can even do it digitally.

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                          • guycobb2undefined
                            guycobb2 @Phaedrux
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                            @Phaedrux just measuring center to center of teeth?

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              Yes. The belt teeth are probably GT2 type belts with 2mm pitch. Curious to see if the ridges on the print match that.

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                              • guycobb2undefined
                                guycobb2 @Phaedrux
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                                @Phaedrux match it in what manner. A fraction of 2mm? How would it relate?

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                                • guycobb2undefined
                                  guycobb2
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                                  Also, I’m like 99% sure that print with the various layer heights was 35mm wide.

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/6248/help-my-prints-are-wavy/2?_=1581049312237

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                                    • guycobb2undefined
                                      guycobb2
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                                      I’m not at home at the moment but it appears the idlers are at least toothed and it looks like 16T pulley. I know the steps/mm on the X/Y is 88.88 with a 16x microstepping.

                                      https://www.makergear.com/collections/parts/products/idler?variant=49869543759

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                                        Even toothed idlers can cause ridges if the teeth don't mesh smoothly. I've had that on my own printer. Flipping the belts to run on smooth idlers helped eliminate any ridges. But that's a corexy and probably not an option on the makergear.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          Also I did some googling and found some threads complaining about ridges on the makergear forums as well going back to 2015. So it may be working as designed.

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                                          • guycobb2undefined
                                            guycobb2 @Phaedrux
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                                            @Phaedrux meaning flawed?

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