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    • neetspeedundefined
      neetspeed
      last edited by

      Yes
      but I have a problem,
      it tells me motor
      phase a,
        phase b,
      disconect and the descent bed instead
      to go up
      c complicated for i find idex markforged ?? I mounted the motor for the carriage and everything
        the host is missing,
        I understood that duet supported all the modes
        slim
      I hope to find I will have to transform everything into a Cartezienne

      Oui
      Mais j'ai un problème,
      ça me dit moteur
      phase a,
      phase b,
      déconnecter et le lit de descente à la place
      à monter

      c compliqué car je trouve idex markforged ?? J'ai monté le moteur pour le chariot et tout
      l'hôte manque,
      J'ai compris que le duo supportait tous les modes
      svelte
      J'espère trouver que je vais devoir tout transformer en cartezienne

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @neetspeed
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        @neetspeed said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

        it tells me motor
        phase a,
          phase b,

        How fast are you trying to move the motors?
        Has it always done that, or is that new?
        How do you have the motors.

        @neetspeed said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

        I understood that duet supported all the modes

        Anything is possible, but I'm not aware of anyone who has done it yet. Hopefully will have more details soon.

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        • neetspeedundefined
          neetspeed
          last edited by neetspeed

          c good i forgot the jumpers to disconnect the second motor from z
          but nothing to do e1 goes in the wrong direction

          c bon j'ai oublié les cavaliers pour déconnecter le deuxième moteur de z
          mais rien à faire e1 va dans la mauvaise directionut nothing to do e1 goes in the wrong direction

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          • neetspeedundefined
            neetspeed
            last edited by

            maybe dc42,
            I noticed that he had mentioned this in a suget in a subject on the net

            peut-être dc42,
            J'ai remarqué qu'il avait mentionné cela dans un suget dans un sujet sur le net

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            • neetspeedundefined
              neetspeed
              last edited by

              for bed correction ç OK g32c ok
              I miss details and chario u I just have to configure it becomes complicated

              pour la correction du lit ç OK g32c ok
              Les détails me manquent et chario je dois juste configurer ça devient compliqué

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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @neetspeed
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                @neetspeed If E1 is going the wrong way, change direction with M569 P4 'S' parameter.

                For the Markforged kinematics, can you post a diagram of your belt layout? You say that it is CoreXY + Markforge U, is that correct? Or do you have two motors for U and V, like a second CoreXY?

                If you are running CoreXYUV, use M669 K8. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M669_Set_kinematics_type_and_kinematics_parameters

                If you are running CoreXY + Markforge U, you have to work out the transformation matrix. This is how one axis moving affects the others. It's also M669, but with additional parameters for X, Y and U. To do this, you need to work out how each axis moves when the others move. X and Y should be the same as a normal CoreXY, but with an additional value for U. Send M669 to see the current matrix; in CoreXY mode, I get (I have added the comments):

                Kinematics is CoreXY, matrix:
                1.00 1.00 0 ; This how X, Y and Z motors move when there is a positive X move
                1.00 -1.00 0 ; This how X, Y and Z motors move when there is a positive Y move
                0 0 1.00 ; This how X, Y and Z motors move when there is a positive Z move
                

                U needs to move when X and Y move. It will probably be something like:

                1.00 1.00 0 0 ; This how X, Y, U and Z motors move when there is a positive X move
                1.00 -1.00 -1.00 0 ; This how X, Y, U and Z motors move when there is a positive Y move
                0 0 1.00 0 ; This how X, Y, U and Z motors move when there is a positive U move
                0 0 0 1.00 ; This how X, Y, U and Z motors move when there is a positive Z move
                

                A positive X move shouldn't move the U axis (even though the X and Y motors move). A positive Y move will make the U axis move positively (but may move negatively, so check), so needs -1 to counteract this. A positive U move shouldn't move X or Y. However, this is just a guess! You have the machine in front of you, so should be able to work this out.

                This would give an M669 command like:
                M669 X1:1:0:0 Y1:-1:-1:0 U0:0:1:0 Z0:0:0:1
                Which would replace the one in your config.g.

                Seeing a picture of your belt setup would help, but I think this is close.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                • neetspeedundefined
                  neetspeed
                  last edited by

                  hi guys
                  thank you ,
                  I have exactly this kinematics of belt

                  1554221330237-corexyu.png

                  my corexy
                  m669
                  kinematics is CoreXY, matrix:
                  1.00 1.00 0
                  1.00 -1.00 0
                  0 0 1.00

                  my first chario, stop 9.5 mm before the charion U, which has the same dimensions as x in mirror, finally I suppose

                  and I'm not M669, I have M667 S1

                  salut les gars
                  Merci ,
                  J'ai exactement cette cinématique de ceinture

                  mon corexy
                  m669
                  la cinématique est CoreXY, matrice:
                  1,00 1,00 0
                  1,00 -1,00 0
                  0 0 1,00

                  mon premier chario, arrêtez-vous à 9,5 mm avant le charion U, qui a les mêmes dimensions que x dans le miroir, enfin je suppose

                  et je ne suis pas M669, j'ai M667 S1

                  my print face

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                  • neetspeedundefined
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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @droftarts
                      last edited by dc42

                      @droftarts said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

                      This would give an M669 command like:
                      M669 X1:1:0:0 Y1:-1:-1:0 U0:0:1:0 Z0:0:0:1
                      Which would replace the one in your config.g.

                      That looks correct to me except that the U motor values should come after the Z motor values, not before. If you also put parameter K1 in that command it will be this:

                      M669 K1 X1:1:0:0 Y1:-1:0:-1 U0:0:0:1 Z0:0:1:0

                      then it can replace your M667 command.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @dc42
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                        @neetspeed, in case you didn't notice, I just corrected my previous reply.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                        • neetspeedundefined
                          neetspeed
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                          @dc42 said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

                          M669 K1 X1:1:0:0 Y1👎0:-1 U0:0:0:1 Z0:0:1:0

                          I saw the correct version 🙂
                          thank you dc42 really
                          Y, lost half his speed,
                            but the movement XY works it is necessary I create the axis U
                          🙂

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
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                            Yes you need to create the U axis using the M584 command. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M584_Set_drive_mapping

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                            • neetspeedundefined
                              neetspeed
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                              speed will recover?

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @neetspeed
                                last edited by

                                @neetspeed said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

                                speed will recover?

                                I don't know why the speed has changed. When you have added the U axis in M584, please post your config.g file.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                • neetspeedundefined
                                  neetspeed
                                  last edited by neetspeed

                                  error G28 I dig
                                  config (3).g

                                  G28 U
                                  Error: Bad command: '' 'Accueil U en haut de l'axe' ''
                                  Error: G0/G1: insufficient axes homed

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators @neetspeed
                                    last edited by droftarts

                                    @neetspeed Have you added homing of U to homeall.g, and/or created homeu.g? Or, for now, set the U axis position with G92 U[postition], eg G92 U100.

                                    Ian

                                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                    • droftartsundefined
                                      droftarts administrators @neetspeed
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                                      @neetspeed
                                      b5d4fe8b-31ec-4c3b-990a-94308a7cb4f2-image.png
                                      These two belts do not look parallel. I think they are for the CoreXY carriage. This will cause the belt to get tighter as the carriage moves left, and will create LOTS of problems. Belt paths MUST be straight, and at 90º. The only place where they don't have to be straight is at the back, where the X and Y belt cross, like your picture earlier:
                                      alt text

                                      Ian

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                                      • neetspeedundefined
                                        neetspeed
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                                        🙂 no c the U belt
                                        temporary for the moment but x goes first and does not bother thanks

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                                        • neetspeedundefined
                                          neetspeed
                                          last edited by

                                          @droftarts said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

                                          G92 U100.

                                          c well E8,
                                          for driver 4 of the duex?

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                                          • droftartsundefined
                                            droftarts administrators @neetspeed
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                                            @neetspeed From your config.g this is wrong:

                                            M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 U3 E4:; deux moteurs Z connectés aux sorties pilote Z et E1
                                            

                                            You have E3 and U3 using the same driver, Z4 and E4 using same driver, and E4: expects another driver! Where are U axis and the two Extruder axes connected?

                                            c well E8,
                                            for driver 4 of the duex?

                                            What do you mean? You want to connect second E to driver 4 of Duex? See here for Duex wiring diagram: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duex_wiring_diagrams

                                            Remember to define motors with M569. Perhaps try:

                                            M569 P5 S1                                     ; physical drive 5 goes backwards, E2 on Duex
                                            M569 P6 S1                                     ; physical drive 6 goes backwards, E3 on Duex
                                            M569 P7 S1                                     ; physical drive 7 goes backwards, E4 on Duex
                                            M569 P8 S1                                     ; physical drive 8 goes backwards, E5 on Duex
                                            M569 P9 S1                                     ; physical drive 9 goes backwards, E6 on Duex
                                            
                                            M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 U3 E5:6 ; Extruders on Duex E2 and E3
                                            

                                            Ian

                                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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