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    A Former User
    last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 04:51

    I just did my first real carving since setting up my custom CNC and it seems to move very jerky in the X axis direction while carving. When i move it from location to location its great, super smooth no issue but when its doing a 3d carving moving slow in the X direction it seems to struggle then jump.

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 05:06

      More technical details please.

      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        3DPMicro @A Former User
        last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 08:02

        @chichirod by 3d carving do you mean all 3 axis moving at the same time? If so post the g code program for those moves

        Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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          A Former User @3DPMicro
          last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 13:15

          @3DPMicro The machine is only moving the X axis and Z axis when the jerkiness seems to happen. When its running at a consistant level its very smooth but as it lifts to carve a piece it jumps instead of being a smooth transition. Here is the Gcode:Eagle rough 2 0.25em.gcode

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            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 13:17

            Config please. Sounds like Z speed settings could be too low

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              A Former User @Phaedrux
              last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 13:17

              @Phaedrux The machine is only moving the X axis and Z axis when the jerkiness seems to happen. When its running at a consistent (not lowering or raising the Z axis) level its very smooth and quick, but as it lifts to carve a piece it jumps instead of being a smooth transition.

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                A Former User @Phaedrux
                last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 13:18

                @Phaedrux ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Fri Mar 06 2020 14:56:26 GMT-0700 (Mountain Standard Time)

                ; General preferences
                G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                M550 P"Duet3 CNC" ; set printer name

                ; Network
                M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                ; Drives
                M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards
                M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                M569 P0.3 S0 ; physical drive 0.3 goes backwards
                M584 X0.0:0.3 Y0.1 Z0.2 ; set drive mapping
                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E80.00 ; set steps per mm
                M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z1800.00 E12000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                M906 X2800 Y2800 Z4200 E2800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                ; Axis Limits
                M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                M208 X2498 Y1245 Z140 S0 ; set axis maxima

                ; Endstops
                M574 X1 S1 P"io0.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io0.in
                M574 Y1 S1 P"io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io1.in
                M574 Z2 S1 P"io2.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in

                ; Z-Probe
                M558 P0 H5 F120 T12000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                ; Heaters
                M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T1 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                M143 H0 S0 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 0C
                M307 H0 B0 S0.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0

                ; Fans

                ; Tools

                ; Custom settings
                M307 H1 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable Heater 1 so we can use it for a tool
                M453 P0 R24000 F400 ; Set to CNC mode, using Tool 0, 24000 Max RPM, PWM Frequency 400hz

                ; Miscellaneous
                M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 13:21

                  Yes increase your zspeeds acceleration and jerk. Do some testing to see if it's still in the limits and try again. Dry run first.

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    A Former User @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 13:22

                    @Phaedrux Awesome, thank you. Any recommendations on how high to go to?

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 13:25

                      That's what the testing is for, but Start with 10x your current values. It's the 12mm/min jerk that is the biggest problem I think.

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        A Former User @Phaedrux
                        last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 13:29

                        @Phaedrux Ok, I just wanted a starting point. Ill start playing. Thank you

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                          A Former User @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 16 Mar 2020, 18:32

                          @Phaedrux That was definitely it. It moves way better. A bit more tweaking and its all good

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