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    • carfnannundefined
      carfnann
      last edited by

      Hi

      I was changing my heatsink fan and did a short circuit on the wire (with a nice spark)...
      Board seems ok, I can Home All, launch heating on Tool and Bed but I have no fan working now...
      I have 2 fan on Always On and 2 on Pwm fan.

      What can I do to fix my fan? is there a fuse to change?

      Thanks

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk
        last edited by

        What board are you using?

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • carfnannundefined
          carfnann
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          oops sorry, I'm using a Duet 2 WiFi

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          • chrishammundefined
            chrishamm administrators
            last edited by

            If you have a v1.03 or newer, I think you have to replace a fuse. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_Wiring_Diagrams There is a blade fuse in the middle for the fans.

            Duet software engineer

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            • carfnannundefined
              carfnann
              last edited by

              Thanks!

              Indeed, I've found the fuse. it is broken...
              unfortunately it is not a common fuse... I've check in auto store and the mini fuse start at 3A

              I would have to order online and wait weeks 😞

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User @carfnann
                last edited by A Former User

                @carfnann said in Fan short circuit, how to fix?:

                I've check in auto store and the mini fuse start at 3A

                while its probably not supported both the fan mosfet and the traces* on the board can deal with 3A, so in theory the the fuse (or the fan wiring) should fail before the board if you were to use a 3A fuse while you wait, and a fault develops. On the other hand odds are the mosfet for the fan in question is also blown, so I'd probably use a 3A just to test even if not for prints.

                *) according to https://www.4pcb.com/trace-width-calculator.html

                edit: if you find somewhere that fix motorcycles, they might have 1A fuse

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                • en_passantundefined
                  en_passant
                  last edited by

                  feeling @carfnann's pain as I'm trying to find the same fuse! Easy to finds 3A+ (even 2A on Amazon), but 1A not so.

                  @bearer said:

                  while its probably not supported both the fan mosfet and the traces* on the board can deal with 3A, so in theory the the fuse (or the fan wiring) should fail before the board if you were to use a 3A fuse while you wait, and a fault develops. On the other hand odds are the mosfet for the fan in question is also blown, so I'd probably use a 3A just to test even if not for prints.

                  Hoping mine will just be the fuse and not the mosfet as I wasn't playing with it and short it (what's more, since I've had the Duet wifi... it's never had a fan plugged into it! 😮)
                  Where about is that guy out of interest?

                  e_p

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User @en_passant
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                    @en_passant said in Fan short circuit, how to fix?:

                    I wasn't playing with it and short it

                    if the short circuit curren't didn't pass through the mosfet then its probably okay, the other way around the mosfet usally fail before the fuse.

                    sharing OPs general location might be a good idea, myself and others may also have a fuse to spare nearby.

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                    • en_passantundefined
                      en_passant @A Former User
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                      @bearer said in Fan short circuit, how to fix?:

                      @en_passant said in Fan short circuit, how to fix?:

                      I wasn't playing with it and short it

                      if the short circuit curren't didn't pass through the mosfet then its probably okay, the other way around the mosfet usally fail before the fuse.

                      sharing OPs general location might be a good idea, myself and others may also have a fuse to spare nearby.

                      If you should happen to find another, I know someone in London who'd be grateful! 😉

                      e_p

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                      • Karmaundefined
                        Karma @en_passant
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                        @en_passant That very weird, I was able to easily find a 1amp mini fuse on Amazon. I pretty much did the same thing as OP. Got a very nice spark. I was so freaked out that I may have fried my board or something. Then I Googled it and found out about the fuse. Checked it and sure enough, it was blown. Ordered new fuse, only could get it with 10 in a pack. lolz, I guess I have a few extra tries to see some sparks fly. J/K.

                        If you would like and it is not against the forum's rules, I could post you the link to what I bought to replace my fuse.

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                        • en_passantundefined
                          en_passant @Karma
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                          @Karma

                          Please, yeah. (Not sure it's against forum rules, but don't think so...)

                          I've found 1 - but it's on eBay from China and going to take a month to arrive!

                          e_p

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                          • Karmaundefined
                            Karma @en_passant
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                            @en_passant Admins, please forgive me if I am breaking the rules by posting a link in your forum's. I am only doing this to help a fellow member out.

                            https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0721P1RNT/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_fx73EbT65D528

                            This is the type of fuse you will need. You can find them in lower quantities, but for $8.00 dollars, its not like they are that expensive.

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                            • en_passantundefined
                              en_passant @Karma
                              last edited by

                              @Karma

                              Ahh, you're in the US. I did also find them - but I'm in the UK... which seems to have a distinct lack of 1A ATM mini blade fuses!

                              Might have to go with China....

                              e_p

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                              • Karmaundefined
                                Karma @en_passant
                                last edited by

                                @en_passant Hmm. Well that kinda stinks then. I will try and find it for you in the UK.

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                                • Karmaundefined
                                  Karma @en_passant
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                                  @en_passant Please try this link.

                                  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N3YP4C1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_3J73EbWQ03GP8

                                  It says they ship to UK and you can get it by this Friday

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Posting links is fine.

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                    • en_passantundefined
                                      en_passant @Karma
                                      last edited by

                                      @Karma

                                      Thanks for the help! Appreciated! 🙂

                                      e_p

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                                      • Karmaundefined
                                        Karma @en_passant
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                                        @en_passant I am glad I was able to help soneone today. It makes the day worth living and enjoying.

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
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                                          You can find them in the UK here https://www.co-star.co.uk/3758/mini-blade-fuse-1amp-black-pack-of-10-fbm-1-10/.

                                          They are usually available from UK eBay suppliers too, but they seem to be out of stock of the 1A version at present.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • en_passantundefined
                                            en_passant @dc42
                                            last edited by

                                            @dc42

                                            Google didn't seem to pick them up for me but I've just picked them up now, thanks.

                                            e_p

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