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    deckingman @dc42
    last edited by 27 Jun 2020, 18:07

    @dc42 said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

    Can you confirm that you are running firmware 3.1.1 on the main board?

    Yup

    M122
    === Diagnostics ===
    RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.1.1 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 (standalone mode)
    M122 B1
    Diagnostics for board 1:
    Board EXP3HC firmware 3.1.0 (2020-05-15b1)

    Don't know if it makes any difference but all the extruders are connected to expansion boards 1 and 2 and the hot end heater and thermistor are on expansion board 1.

    Ian
    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      deckingman
      last edited by 2 Jul 2020, 20:12

      Does nobody have any idea why that macro sometimes works and at other times throws up errors - "iterations used when not inside a loop". Interestingly, the other very similar macros which set the tool temperatures to high values and which are used at the start of a print always work. It's just this one which sets the temperature to zero at the end of a print.

      Because it is erratic and unpredictable, I've had to go back to my old way of doing things and use a number of macros, each with a fixed but different number of G10 Pnn S0 R0 commands, rather than use the while loop. Otherwise, more often than not, the tools will all remain at print temperature when a print finishes which is highly undesirable.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        OwenD @deckingman
        last edited by OwenD 7 Feb 2020, 20:25 2 Jul 2020, 20:24

        @deckingman
        If it works sometimes and not others I suspect an unhandled exception. I.e. the firmware isn't getting what it expected.
        It may help in diagnosing if you add a delay after the echo and add an "else" section to notify when a null value is being returned by your if statement (also with an echo and delay)
        I'd also do a "finished" section for good measure.

        I suspect if you don't have sequential numbering on the tools something may be going awry that you aren't seeing.

        Those changes should help determine which "iteration" is giving the grief

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          deckingman @OwenD
          last edited by deckingman 7 Feb 2020, 20:34 2 Jul 2020, 20:34

          @OwenD Thanks -

          I don't know if it helps but actually I get one error for every tool that exists. The tools are always sequentially numbered, so for example if I have 11 tools numbered from 0 to 10, then I get 11 error messages.

          And as I said, running an almost identical macro at the start of a print to set the tool temperatures to (say) 210, always works. But I'll add the delays and an else section and see what happens.

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            dc42 administrators
            last edited by 3 Jul 2020, 15:34

            Ian, does this issue only occur when you call that macro from within end.g, or can you reproduce it in any other way?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              deckingman @dc42
              last edited by deckingman 7 Mar 2020, 17:30 3 Jul 2020, 17:26

              @dc42 said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

              Ian, does this issue only occur when you call that macro from within end.g, or can you reproduce it in any other way?

              Unfortunately, it isn't as clear cut as that. I've just spent the last couple of hours trying to provoke it to misbehave. It seems the only time it will misbehave is at the end of a print. But running the post print macro on it's own (which in turn calls the tool temps macro), does not make it misbehave.

              To recap, the macro which provokes errors (at the end of a print) is this:

                if tools[iterations] != null
                  echo "Setting temp for tool T", iterations
                  G10 P{iterations} S0 R0 ; - set it's active and standby temperature
              

              It is called from within this macro which is called "PostPrint.g":

              
              G10 ; retract
              G91 ; set relative
              G1 Z5 F240 ; move bed down 5mm
              G90 ; back to absolute
              G1 X165 Y300 F9000 ; move to rear
              
              M98 P"0:/macros/ToolTemps/ToolTemps0.g" ; set the tool temperatures to 0
              
              M140 S0 ; turn off bed
              M106 S0 ; turn off part fan
              
              M291 P"Print finished" R"Post-Print Macro" S1 T10
              

              I can run that "PostPrint" macro any time and it runs without errors. Yet when it is called from the end of a print, I get the "iterations used when not inside a loop" errors (11 of them - 1 for each tool)

              When I get the errors, I can send M98 P"PostPrint.g" and it will run without errors.

              This is the end of a gcode file that I've just finished

              G1 X107.377 Y142.526 E0.05564
              G10 ; retract
              M107
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ;end
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ; Filament-specific end gcode 
              ;END gcode for filament
              ;end
              M98 P"0:/macros/PostPrint.g"
              ; filament used = 17028.6mm (41.0cm3)
              ; total filament cost = 0.0
              .........lots more comments after this
              

              Could those filament specific comments that the slicer puts in before the M98 macro call screw things up?

              I've tried running the last gcode commands in order - i.e. G10 followed by M107 followed by the M98 P... but that does not provoke the errors.

              Weird or what?

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                A Former User
                last edited by 3 Jul 2020, 17:30

                can you upload a sample print file along with the config? stuck in the countryside for a rainy weekend, never know, might find the time to poke it

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                  deckingman @A Former User
                  last edited by 3 Jul 2020, 17:58

                  @bearer Thanks. I've sent you a chat message with shareable link to a folder that I have created on my Google Drive, which contains what I think are all the relevant files.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    deckingman
                    last edited by 3 Jul 2020, 19:14

                    OK. So by a process of elimination, I have found the reason (but not the cause) for the errors and a work around. I created a gcode file with simply the start part and the end part of a print file which provokes the problem. That is to say, with all the G1 moves removed. Running that did provoke the problem. Then I progressively removed various commands until I ended with simply this:

                    M98 P"0:/macros/PrePrintPETG.g"
                    ;G21 ; set units to millimeters
                    ;G90 ; use absolute coordinates
                    ;M83 ; use relative distances for e
                    M107
                    M98 P"0:/macros/PostPrint.g"

                    ..........and that will provoke the problem when run as a print file. Yet running those commands "stand alone" via the console does not provoke the problem - it has to be done as a print from the sd card.

                    The work around is to put M400 before that second "post print" macro (or indeed at the start of that macro before the call to the second "tool temps" macro).

                    If that's how it has to be, that's fine by me, but I suggest it be documented somewhere so as to help others in the future.

                    HTH

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 3 Jul 2020, 19:51

                      Thanks, that will make it easier for me to track down.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        deckingman @dc42
                        last edited by 3 Jul 2020, 19:57

                        @dc42 said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

                        Thanks, that will make it easier for me to track down.

                        No worries. I have those macros in a folder on my google drive so I can send you a shareable link if you want to replicate things exactly.

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by 6 Jul 2020, 10:16

                          Thanks, I've reproduced the fault using those files, and I'm looking into it.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by 6 Jul 2020, 10:22

                            I've worked out what's going on. The G10 command would normally be synchronised to the movement queue. If there are movements not yet complete, it is put in the deferred execution queue. When it is retrieved from that queue, the "iterations" context has been lost.

                            I think the solution will be to substitute for all { } parameters when copying the GCode command to the deferred execution queue.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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